fernandopartridge
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I wouldn't say 2 is infinite to be honest mate
Allen's scored an infinite number of league goals more from midfield this season than Palmer.
TBF Blackburn have just lost Brereton-Diaz to Villareal on a pre contract for fuck all. Was valued at 16 Million in the Summer
Cant have the same happen to Vik here
His finishing isn't great tbh. It is however better than it was last season. What I wouldn't be doing is buying Gyokeres as a goalscorer, but more for his other qualities and the fact he'll chip in with the occasional goal too. I do worry that this spell is the anomoly in his goalscoring, although tbf he's carried it on from last season so I guess at some stage I have to accept he can miss plenty of chances as long as he keeps making them for himself.
It's back to that Doug King thing of do the right thing over and over and eventually it'll succeed - is why I'd rather have players miss chances than players who are never there in the first place to have the chance at all.
He's scored 3 goals from midfield versus Palmer's zero from midfieldI wouldn't say 2 is infinite to be honest mate
I agree and it doesn't help that our wing backs rarely score. McFadzean's absence doesn't help either as he is the most likely of our defenders to score.I agree with your last line there, but I am really paranoid about the lack of goals from the overall team in general. I know this is probably a bit of a silly reference, but if I am putting on an accumulator of two teams that have similar standings or form, I always look at their capability to score goals through the goals scored column. It often serves me well in the end.
I guess the point in general is that we need more goals in the team anyway, but I would be worried if we lost Gyokeres. That also being said, I still think he could do better, and I feel he has changed his style of play since he first joined a bit. He's a lot more selfish now, which is sometimes a good thing, sometimes frustrating.
Levels are importantHe’s always scored at a good rate his entire career. This isn’t an anomaly.
Not sure that's how infinity worksAllen's scored an infinite number of league goals more from midfield this season than Palmer.
If he did shoot and missed, some people would say he should have gone round the keeper.
Godden will score some, but as many as Gyokeres? I don't think so. Walker won't score as many as you think either.
We have such a goal shy midfield, we have almost no room for error for a loan striker to stop scoring.
I will die on this hill.
I disagree.I wouldn't say 2 is infinite to be honest mate
Levels are important
Godden will score some, but as many as Gyokeres? I don't think so. Walker won't score as many as you think either.
We have such a goal shy midfield, we have almost no room for error for a loan striker to stop scoring.
I will die on this hill.
I agree but would be surprised if we could offer the sort of wages required to get him tied down really.He needs to either go this window or sign a new deal really.
He needs to either go this window or sign a new deal really.
We could surely get a bidding war going in the summer regardless.
I love godden , however viks all round game as come on so much in the last 12 months it's impossible to compare them anymore..Interestingly, Godden and Vik have a very similar scoring rate for us in the Championship.
Godden has scored 21 goals in 59 games, just slightly better than 1 in 3
Vik has scored 32 in 90 games, just slightly better than 1 in 3
Yeah but how long will that take and you’re quickly into losing him for free if it doesn’t work. You’d get more in Jan when people are desperate and he has linger on his contract and have cash in the bank and a few months to line up proper targets.
I am pretty sure in terms of minutes Godden's scoring rate is much better. More of his appearances are from the bench.Interestingly, Godden and Vik have a very similar scoring rate for us in the Championship.
Godden has scored 21 goals in 59 games, just slightly better than 1 in 3
Vik has scored 32 in 90 games, just slightly better than 1 in 3
If we were nearer to 50 points and had more than a skeleton crew available I’d agree with you. But it’s paper thin, the defence has gone to pot and our goal tally is poor even with Gyo. King is also hinting at more of what’s come before with no or little external financial support.
Gyo reaches 20 goals this season he will have solid interest from more than one place.
Godden and Walker are back at the end of the month, Fadz the month after, two new wingbacks and two or three more to come in. Well be fine. People always get like this when we have a bad run. Even with the garbage we came up with we were never close to relegation.
It isn’t the form, it’s the state of the squad. Take Gyo out of it and you’re assuming Walker and Godden will find some form and stay fit. Likewise who knows how McF will come back and until he does the 4 at the back we went with last week might not be so silly.
I think there are clear areas where Gyokeres can improve. First there is the heading which I think he us making progress on. Also learning when to lay the ball off for others. I think he'll get there on this, and actually I don't think he can make it in the Premier league until he has this.It’s difficult, I was pleased that we signed Vik after his loan spell, and that has proven to be an excellent decision. I’m not sure, however, how much more improvement there is to come from Vik at 24 years of age. I don’t know that he will continue to be prolific, and he can be greedy and not look up as much as he should. This could be because without O’Hare, he‘s not getting the support he needs. This may, therefore, be the time to cash in, if we can get a good fee, and reinvest. Would be a risk for this season, but may be for the best in the long run.
Vik to Villa? We’ve got form for this…West Ham just paid 15m for Ings.
They might have been better off with Vik.
Then again they might not.
Who knows.
I think there are some players he doesn't trust.He is now at the point where he just refuses to pass to anyone. Either he wants to do it all alone or he isnt that interested anymore. There is no chance he signs a new contract so in the summer we need to sell and rebuild without him
Well either he starts doing so or he is a hindrance to the team. No point him getting the ball to then hold on to it and lose it because he feels he is better than his team mates.I think there are some players he doesn't trust.
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It will anyway as his contract runs down. We have to sell either now or the summer to get anything resembling a decent fee.If he doesn't change his value will go down with every game
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