Lord_Nampil
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In Harmers position did he react to Cooke as he didn't even see him coming until his arm was coming towards his chest, could you say it was self defence that was provoked??
Does he fuck. Where's th reaction from Cook?
Fell for the oldest trick in tthe book. Hamer is a red card waiting to happen. We knew this before he signed. Ironically he pussied out of that tackle for their third
Fucking stupid from Hamer , I’ve said it previously , if he’s going to be missing 6 games a season through stupid shit like this then I don’t care how good you are, it’s going to cost us deeply!
I’m more pissed off with the sending off than the defeat
If he spat he is in real trouble
I completely agree. That's absolutely what he should've done. And frankly, if you're gonna gent sent off and miss 3 games at least make it a proper right hook.
Way too much bias and emotion on this thread. It’s a red card. You can disagree with the actual law as it is soft but it’s a red card every time. The club will know it too and the proof will be in that we won’t challenge it. Cook was clever, he shoves him chest height. As soon as you touch someone’s face it’ll be deemed violent conduct. It’s naive from Hamer. Very similar incident in Everton west Brom saw James Rodriguez shove Gibbs off the ball, he raises his hands to Rodriguez face and is rightly sent off. Hamers discipline has been brought into question before this game and we’re 3 games in, in his 4th he does that. He needs to learn sharpish as he looks a hell of a player or he’ll be letting the side down spending a lot of time suspended.
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I'm convinced he didn't pull out of that tackle for their third goal. To me it looked like he thought he could just take the ball off the toe of the opposition player but was fractionally slow. As others have said, he should have gone down like he'd been shot when Cook pushed him and hopefully he'll learn from the incident at his own expense as well as the team's as Robins alluded to in the post match interview.
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They obviously targeted him; get used it because it’s going to happen again. He needs to get a bit more streetwise and it was a sending off all day long.
It shouldn’t be but by the laws of it was a definite sending off.Should it be a sending off ?.
It shouldn’t be but by the laws of it was a definite sending off.
Cook also did it behind the referee so the ref didn't see it. Hamer did in full view of the ref.Does anyone have a video? From seeing it once Cook pushed in the chest and Hamer pushed in the face?
Does anyone have a video? From seeing it once Cook pushed in the chest and Hamer pushed in the face?
Fucking stupid from Hamer , I’ve said it previously , if he’s going to be missing 6 games a season through stupid shit like this then I don’t care how good you are, it’s going to cost us deeply!
I’m more pissed off with the sending off than the defeat
To be fair, he had to be subbed off against Bristol to prevent him getting himself sent off.It's the second time he's been sent off in 172 games. Let's not make this out to be a recurring thing. He lost his cool but what Cook did was far worse and was apparently only a yellow.
To be fair, he had to be subbed off against Bristol to prevent him getting himself sent off.
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To be fair, you could say the same about Ostigard last night, but nobody's questioning his temperament. We need Hamer to be competitive. Alongside his set pieces/passing/shooting, it's a key asset. I like him, but as I said in another thread, he's going to drive you mad occasionally - but way more positives than negatives with him, and if he is going to be missing for 3, I'd sooner it was 3 of the tougher ones than against middle table/lower teams.
True but if you compareTo be fair, you could say the same about Ostigard last night, but nobody's questioning his temperament. We need Hamer to be competitive. Alongside his set pieces/passing/shooting, it's a key asset. I like him, but as I said in another thread, he's going to drive you mad occasionally - but way more positives than negatives with him, and if he is going to be missing for 3, I'd sooner it was 3 of the tougher ones than against middle table/lower teams.
Ostigard was poor and has been in most games I’ve seen him
Distribution has been the poorest part of his game imo, but he is strong in the air and doesn't shirk a tackle. Rose will probably replace him anyway for the next game, given that Rose will be at our training ground for MR to work with, while Ostigard is away with the Norwegian national team. Our defence has been ok, except for the playing out from the back into the midfield, where we look like losing the ball too often. I am already tempted to go 2 up front, in an attempt to have enough play in the area we need to score goals, Interesting times ahead re: tactics. I'd be particularly interested in trying something different in the free hit type games (Brentford away being one of them)
True but if you compare
Bristol - Hamer yellow (taken off before sent off) / Ostegard not booked
Qpr - Hamer not booked / Ostegard not booked
Barnsley - Hamer yellow / Ostegard not booked
Bournemouth- Hamer red /Ostegard Yellow (taken off before sent off)
2 yellows, 1 red in 4 league games vs 1 yellow in 4 league games. Its clear to see why people are questioning Hamers temperament.
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