robbiekeane
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That’s such a dangerous attitude for me. Paying players crazy wages is what got us in the shit in the first place
people have short memories
That’s such a dangerous attitude for me. Paying players crazy wages is what got us in the shit in the first placeWhat's Hamer asking for/expecting? If we're talking 20k a week, then just pay the man what he's worth, if it's 30k+, then obviously we can't afford that and just run his contract down or cash him in if we get a good enough offer.
Good to see you back!Imagine how using Tom Grennan as your mouthpiece would go down at a club like Leeds!
That’s such a dangerous attitude for me. Paying players crazy wages is what got us in the shit in the first place
people have short memories
Yes fair point most often it was for players we didn’t have a clue on. Hamer has been with us 3 years and been incredible. You’re not paying 20k a week for an average footballer. You’re paying 20k for the best midfielder in the championship statistically.
Also it’s the zaha factor when he was offered 200k by palace. Reason he commands such big wages is because your best players you consider not worth 200k or 20k a week for Hamer but how much is the replacement? It’s either the same with a transfer fee attached. Unless you go cheap and hope to get lucky. I feel we aren’t in that position any more
And if the other top players also want pay rises what then?If we can't offer a player as important as Hamer 20k then I'd be very disappointed to be honest.
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Which players?And if the other top players also want pay rises what then?
I was about to reply the same. Gus and Vik are our best players, we should pay them what they’re worth.Which players?
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CoH once he’s back.Which players?
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Waghorn was our highest paid player I believe, must have missed the part where all the players were beating the door down demanding parity. Would make a nice change to actually have our best players as our top earners.I was about to reply the same. Gus and Vik are our best players, we should pay them what they’re worth.
4 mill from playoffs. wages from the deadwood ala Walker, waghorn not to mention potential sell on for Maddison.There won't be any more money available for wages this season. Where is the extra money to come from?
Huh?There won't be any more money available for wages this season. Where is the extra money to come from?
Tbh if after that, plus having an owner who claims to have ambitions to get to prem in 5 years, plus the constant increase in crowd sizes... we can't afford to offer one or two top quality players 20k a week, then we might as well give up.4 mill from playoffs. wages from the deadwood ala Walker, waghorn not to mention potential sell on for Maddison.
If we're to assume Waghorn was the top of the SISU wage structure on a reported 15k do you think the ambitious Doug King complete with the bonus cash mentioned above plus a likely huge sale of Gyokeres, can stretch to 20k? Embarrassing if not.Not just the players here, but the players coming in who have to fit into a wage structure. If Hamer increases said top level, it makes it more likely players coming in get similar.
And it's a very bad risk for one player to be on substantially more than the rest of the squad. If we can't afford it for many, we can't afford it for one.
I don't think £20k is crazy wages at this level in the current climate. It's a going rate. We've been paying others not much less than that who've made little contribution at all.That’s such a dangerous attitude for me. Paying players crazy wages is what got us in the shit in the first place
people have short memories
It wouldn't just be Hamer though, you'd be looking at £farmorek upwards increase on wages across the squad. Is that a fair wage structure? Dunno, we're plucking arbitrary numbers out the air. I mean, when he signed his current contract that was supposed to be totally unsustainable, so an increase on that...?If we're to assume Waghorn was the top of the SISU wage structure on a reported 15k do you think the ambitious Doug King complete with the bonus cash mentioned above plus a likely huge sale of Gyokeres, can stretch to 20k? Embarrassing if not.
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I don't think £20k is crazy wages at this level in the current climate. It's a going rate. We've been paying others not much less than that who've made little contribution at all.
I don't think you have to increase it across the squad, we should anyway as we had barely anything available under those clowns, but I don't think you have to. Like I said, paying Waghorn what he was getting had the potential to cause more disruption as let's be honest he didn't earn it, but it didn't and everyone just got on with it.It wouldn't just be Hamer though, you'd be looking at £farmorek upwards increase on wages across the squad. Is that a fair wage structure? Dunno, we're plucking arbitrary numbers out the air. I mean, when he signed his current contract that was supposed to be totally unsustainable, so an increase on that...?
Fine, but on that basis the Championship is definitely not the league for us.That’s such a dangerous attitude for me. Paying players crazy wages is what got us in the shit in the first place
people have short memories
In which case your risk is too great and you're better off increasing the strength of the squad as a whole. You're also making new signings more if a challenge if it's not a squad driven wage ceiling but a Hamer driven one.don't think you have to increase it across the squad
Exactly. They are head and shoulders above the rest.Waghorn was our highest paid player I believe, must have missed the part where all the players were beating the door down demanding parity. Would make a nice change to actually have our best players as our top earners.
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In which case your risk is too great and you're better off increasing the strength of the squad as a whole. You're also making new signings more if a challenge if it's not a squad driven wage ceiling but a Hamer driven one.
We don’t know what the current losses are with a revised finance agreement in place.On the existing wage structure the club loses £5m a year
Most fans: That's great news we've signed up our best midfielder to a new contract.Hamer is a rarity in this league. He covers the pitch like 2 players. He can score, set up goals and most of all, does the job of 2 players. if we are serious about keeping him, we need to offer what he deserves. otherwise, all the good work of the past few seasons will be forgotten with that mentality. the reason we have potential season ticket holders is because of him
And it’s Coventry CityMost fans: That's great news we've signed up our best midfielder to a new contract.
Our fans: I hope this doesn't upset the wage structure.
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In which case your risk is too great and you're better off increasing the strength of the squad as a whole. You're also making new signings more if a challenge if it's not a squad driven wage ceiling but a Hamer driven one.
Hamer is a rarity in this league. He covers the pitch like 2 players. He can score, set up goals and most of all, does the job of 2 players. if we are serious about keeping him, we need to offer what he deserves. otherwise, all the good work of the past few seasons will be forgotten with that mentality. the reason we have potential season ticket holders is because of him
All potential new signings for a startWhich players?
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20k a week is nothingMost fans: That's great news we've signed up our best midfielder to a new contract.
Our fans: I hope this doesn't upset the wage structure.
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