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I think it was Robins himself who said that he wasn't expecting much in the way of extra resources.Most fans: That's great news we've signed up our best midfielder to a new contract.
Our fans: I hope this doesn't upset the wage structure.
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I was thinking about how SISU ran the club. I think they’d got to the stage where they twitched every time the fans talked about spending money.Tbh if after that, plus having an owner who claims to have ambitions to get to prem in 5 years, plus the constant increase in crowd sizes... we can't afford to offer one or two top quality players 20k a week, then we might as well give up.
Think a few on here have Stockholm Syndrome after the SISU years.
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Has Doug King ever set a target of us getting to the premiership in 5 years??Tbh if after that, plus having an owner who claims to have ambitions to get to prem in 5 years, plus the constant increase in crowd sizes... we can't afford to offer one or two top quality players 20k a week, then we might as well give up.
Think a few on here have Stockholm Syndrome after the SISU years.
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It’s implied in the target of 3 play offs in 5 years and hoping to convert one of them …. So yesHas Doug King ever set a target of us getting to the premiership in 5 years??
Hamer is a rarity in this league. He covers the pitch like 2 players. He can score, set up goals and most of all, does the job of 2 players. if we are serious about keeping him, we need to offer what he deserves. otherwise, all the good work of the past few seasons will be forgotten with that mentality. the reason we have potentially more season ticket holders this season is because of him
Not that specific was he…It’s implied in the target of 3 play offs in 5 years and hoping to convert one of them …. So yes
Our fans when clubs like Derby go pop - they cheated their way to success, deserve all they get, ha ha ha ha they thick wankersMost fans: That's great news we've signed up our best midfielder to a new contract.
Our fans: I hope this doesn't upset the wage structure.
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Well that’s a stupid mentality as well.Our fans when clubs like Derby go pop - they cheated their way to success, deserve all they get, ha ha ha ha they thick wankers
I don't disagree.Well that’s a stupid mentality as well.
Basically anyone pretending that football makes any kind of sustainable financial sense in the Championship is deluding themselves - it doesn’t, and we’re all complicit in that. I don’t mind if we decide we don’t want to join in with the madness, but I wouldn’t expect us to play at a high level in that case either.
He specifically said 3 in the next 5 years on his interview on TalkSPORTNot that specific was he…
‘We need to be knocking on the play-off door every single year and we need to get into those play-offs and try to get through the door. That’s the goal that I have set for the club, for the manager’.
His actions will show whether he was actually serious or not then.He specifically said 3 in the next 5 years on his interview on TalkSPORT
Because 20k would probably secure Hamer’s signature. That’s who we’re talking about.I mean, why is £20k appropriate? Surely we should be paying people £30k? Why weren't we in for Messi?
We don't actually know what the club can handle and what is appropriate, although we do know the new contracts for Hamer and O'Hare resulted in the fire sale of a player last year.
I mean I'd be all for a bit of a push with Joe Spunkathon and his bags of cash to get us into the top flight, great!
But if Joe isn't handling his tools in the background, then there's got to be sanity - where that point is, I dunno.
This does have a bit of a hallmark of expectations being raised excessively by a manager punching above the club's weight.
Fair enough. Brave man.He specifically said 3 in the next 5 years on his interview on TalkSPORT
And how do we know that's an appropriate figure? It's all arbitrary! If he'd said £25k would that be ok? How about if he demanded £15k? Too much? If we're talking signing Messi we should just pay him what he wants.Because 20k would probably secure Hamer’s signature. That’s who we’re talking about.
Except for it obviously is as we were just 1 goal away from the premier league? Without paying Hamer 20k a week….Fine, but on that basis the Championship is definitely not the league for us.
Although tbf that was because of the efforts of two players (including Hamer) and a supporting cast!Except for it obviously is as we were just 1 goal away from the premier league? Without paying Hamer 20k a week….
Except for it obviously is as we were just 1 goal away from the premier league? Without paying Hamer 20k a week….
Because we know what other championship players are on. It’s not as difficult as you are making out.And how do we know that's an appropriate figure? It's all arbitrary! If he'd said £25k would that be ok? How about if he demanded £15k? Too much? If we're talking signing Messi we should just pay him what he wants.
I mean he's (Hamer, not Messi!) already had one unsustainable contact and apparently hasn't signed the new contract that's been on offer for him, so it's not like he hasn't been valued is it?
Nah building a 100m stadium that we couldn’t afford got us in the shit in the first placeThat’s such a dangerous attitude for me. Paying players crazy wages is what got us in the shit in the first place
people have short memories
Although tbf that was because of the efforts of two players (including Hamer) and a supporting cast!
Which is actually a good argument why you sell and improve the squad overall. Imagine Gyokeres goes and Hamer either gets kicked to death and doubled down on like Gyokeres was, and then gets injured...
Have a feeling the club are hesitating on giving him what he wantswith players like Hamer and Vik who have carried this team. we will be very lucky to replace them. For every Hamer there is da Costa and every Vik there is waghorn or Walker. we had a great opportunity last season. We need to keep that basis to kick on
Have a feeling the club are hesitating on giving him what he wants
Totally Agree.Robins has a role to play here and tell King to pull all the stops out… or
Robins knows it’s best to cash in and bring more balanced talent across the squad. Find the next 2 Hamer’s out of 4 signings with any funds..
What if we sell Hamer and Gyokeres and bring in 6 players who all fail to perform, what if there's a freak accident and they all get trampled by a herd of goats? So many scenarios, many if's and but's.
Most fans: That's great news we've signed up our best midfielder to a new contract.
Our fans: I hope this doesn't upset the wage structure.
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Like I said, have heard that they’re not at the moment giving him what he wantsIf the 20k region which I’ve been told is true (which I believe it is) then it’s a no brainier. I’ve said it previously. The money made from the playoff final alone covers the wages. The fact we have fans saying we shouldn’t really beggars belief
Say a 5 grand a week pay rise maybeMaybe because some of us remember breaking our wage structure to sign our best striker and ending up in the championship with massive debts
Nah building a 100m stadium that we couldn’t afford got us in the shit in the first place
Maybe because some of us remember breaking our wage structure to sign our best striker and ending up in the championship with massive debts
Say a 5 grand a week pay rise maybe
quarter of a million pound a year to keep Gus on a 3 year contract
this wage structure bollocks is annoying
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