Heartfelt message to those going to Sixfields (1 Viewer)

Voice_of_Reason · Aug 14, 2013

I understand that you wish to "support Pressley and the Lads" and that going to Sixfields was a difficult decision for you, but left me ask you this :-

What "loyalty" does a CCFC player have towards the team ? You know, as well as I do, that come a better offer they would be off like a shot !

A club is much more than it's team of players -- players come and go all the time don't they ?

So, as much as it breaks my heart as well not to go and watch CCFC play, my philosophy is one of "short term pain for long term gain" and I am not prepared to contribute a single penny to SISU and players who would not return my loyalty - players will always put themselves first - human nature.

Please re-think before you go again ?

Nick · Aug 14, 2013

So if the players have no loyalty then why did anybody bother at the Ricoh?

Some people just want to go and watch their team on a Saturday.

matesx · Aug 14, 2013

... or Sunday

thaiskyblue · Aug 14, 2013

Voice_of_Reason said:
I understand that you wish to "support Pressley and the Lads" and that going to Sixfields was a difficult decision for you, but left me ask you this :-

What "loyalty" does a CCFC player have towards the team ? You know, as well as I do, that come a better offer they would be off like a shot !

A club is much more than it's team of players -- players come and go all the time don't they ?

So, as much as it breaks my heart as well not to go and watch CCFC play, my philosophy is one of "short term pain for long term gain" and I am not prepared to contribute a single penny to SISU and players who would not return my loyalty - players will always put themselves first - human nature.

Please re-think before you go again ?

The Voice of Reason , LISTEN..........................

Nick · Aug 14, 2013

matesx said:
... or Sunday

Exactly. I don't think any fans who do go have only gone to help pay the players wages.

sisu go home · Aug 14, 2013

I understand and sympathise completely - but despite matters off the pitch I'd be the first to complain if we lose all our decent players and don't buy anyone else because we don't have the money. I also don't want the club in so much debt that potential investers don't want to make an offer - so I see both sides of the argument. We're trapped in the middle of these two arguments until someone from either ACL or Sisu does the right thing. I'm not going to hold my breath on that one - but in the meantime I'm sticking with my support for the players on the pitch - you're right, history proves that they would move on given a better opportunity or that they'd be sold anyway, but I always sang 'city 'til I die' on the terrace, not 'city until I hate the owners of the club and the owners of the stadium and we have to temporarily play in Northampton' so I won't turn my back on the only ones in this whole debacle doing the right thing.

covboy1987 · Aug 14, 2013

sisu go home said:
I understand and sympathise completely - but despite matters off the pitch I'd be the first to complain if we lose all our decent players and don't buy anyone else because we don't have the money. I also don't want the club in so much debt that potential investers don't want to make an offer - so I see both sides of the argument. We're trapped in the middle of these two arguments until someone from either ACL or Sisu does the right thing. I'm not going to hold my breath on that one - but in the meantime I'm sticking with my support for the players on the pitch - you're right, history proves that they would move on given a better opportunity or that they'd be sold anyway, but I always sang 'city 'til I die' on the terrace, not 'city until I hate the owners of the club and the owners of the stadium and we have to temporarily play in Northampton' so I won't turn my back on the only ones in this whole debacle doing the right thing.

Why cannot you show your support for the players on the pitch by going to all away games

Nick · Aug 14, 2013

Maybe some people can't go to all away games?

spwaverley4916 · Aug 14, 2013

Sisu go home - your name should be sisu take us home - Not knocking you for wanting to watch the lads in sky blue ( Coventry City) - you do what you feel right.
however I used to sing city til I die also in the West End but that City is Coventry City - and thats where they should be playing home games.
Coventry KID born and bred - home games in Coventry. Players, Owners come and go but Coventry is Coventry.

letsallsingtogether · Aug 14, 2013

Got to agree why wound you have a name sisu go home and then give them money to stay? Strange

spwaverley4916 said:
Sisu go home - your name should be sisu take us home - Not knocking you for wanting to watch the lads in sky blue ( Coventry City) - you do what you feel right.
however I used to sing city til I die also in the West End but that City is Coventry City - and thats where they should be playing home games.
Coventry KID born and bred - home games in Coventry. Players, Owners come and go but Coventry is Coventry.

Sterling Archer · Aug 14, 2013

Nick, your logic and lack of drama is not welcome here! Pull at my heart strings you bastard!

shmmeee · Aug 14, 2013

Nick said:
So if the players have no loyalty then why did anybody bother at the Ricoh?

Some people just want to go and watch their team on a Saturday.

Exactly. "Screw everyone else, I'm alright". I find it abhorrent. I hope you never find yourself reliant on the action of others.

You do not exist in a vacuum, your actions have consequences. FFS when did we devolve into a bunch of people that think all that matters is "what I want to do".

Nick · Aug 14, 2013

Is there 100% proof that by not going it will get rid of SISU though?

What PROVEN consequences does the action of people who go to watch at Sixfields have?

Sisued · Aug 14, 2013

FFS we live in a democracy, people have the freedom to choose what they want to do.
People going to Sixfields arent breaking the law leave the poor fuckers alone.
By all means protest and keep the plight of our club in the press etc but our actions cannot be forced upon anyone they either get it or they dont.

ccfcdr · Aug 14, 2013

Wouldn't have these threads on here harps crap up about dividing city fans bollox if they wanna go shitfields their choice just don't beg em not to embarrassing

shmmeee · Aug 14, 2013

Sisued said:
FFS we live in a democracy, people have the freedom to choose what they want to do.
People going to Sixfields arent breaking the law leave the poor fuckers alone.
By all means protest and keep the plight of our club in the press etc but our actions cannot be forced upon anyone they either get it or they dont.

I'm not sure you understand what a democracy is. If you want to live in a democracy then the majority have spoken: NOPM.

Yes, it's not illegal, you can do what you want. It's not illegal to walk drown Foleshill Road with a pig with "Mohammed" written on it. But you can't expect noone to complain.

covcity4life · Aug 14, 2013

Nick said:
Is there 100% proof that by not going it will get rid of SISU though?

What PROVEN consequences does the action of people who go to watch at Sixfields have?

it is about as proven as the theory that admin would lead to sisu leaving or that CVA rejection leads to sisu to leaving

its 100%

shmmeee · Aug 14, 2013

covcity4life said:
it is about as proven as the theory that admin would lead to sisu leaving or that CVA rejection leads to sisu to leaving

its 100%

Who came up with those theories then? No one I saw, besides neither have come to their conclusion yet so a bit premature to say they haven't worked.

By going to Northampton you are saying you don't mind the way the owners are acting. It's tacit support for everything they've done, many people find these people to be destroying something they hold dear. They won't like supporters of this regime.

Go and campaign. For Mugabe in Zimbabwe, see how many farmers greet you with open arms.

covcity4life · Aug 14, 2013

im not going sixfields....

Nick · Aug 14, 2013

shmmeee said:
Who came up with those theories then? No one I saw, besides neither have come to their conclusion yet so a bit premature to say they haven't worked.

By going to Northampton you are saying you don't mind the way the owners are acting. It's tacit support for everything they've done, many people find these people to be destroying something they hold dear. They won't like supporters of this regime.

Go and campaign. For Mugabe in Zimbabwe, see how many farmers greet you with open arms.

Yes, CCFC is just like Mugabe isn't it?

sisu go home · Aug 14, 2013

spwaverley4916 said:
Sisu go home - your name should be sisu take us home - Not knocking you for wanting to watch the lads in sky blue ( Coventry City) - you do what you feel right.
however I used to sing city til I die also in the West End but that City is Coventry City - and thats where they should be playing home games.
Coventry KID born and bred - home games in Coventry. Players, Owners come and go but Coventry is Coventry.

I agree with all your points completely, I just came up with a different solution to you that's all. I just don't think long term it's going to benefit us to cut off our nose to spite our face. Sisu MUST leave, Coventry MUST be in Coventry - but I fear the NOPM campaign will kill the club as much as Sisu have. Think the most positive thing so far was the big march to Broadgate - it showed support for the club, it undermined Sisu, it didn't hurt the players/management and it didn't involve fans being divided. Keep those protests up and the news can't keep ignoring it.

Grappa · Aug 14, 2013

shmmeee said:
It's not illegal to walk drown Foleshill Road with a pig with "Mohammed" written on it. But you can't expect noone to complain.

Er, yes it is, §§ 17-29 of the Public Order Act 1986.

ajsccfc · Aug 14, 2013

From honorable intentions, NOPM is increasingly seeming more like a battle cry to shout people down.

Grappa · Aug 14, 2013

shmmeee said:
I'm not sure you understand what a democracy is. If you want to live in a democracy then the majority have spoken: NOPM.

I'm not sure you do either. The majority in this country have wanted the death penalty reintroduced in every relevant survey in the past 40-odd years.

Sisued · Aug 14, 2013

Right so democracy has nothing to do with freedom its just mob rule.....
As for the pig comment I don't even know where to begin.

skybluebeduff · Aug 14, 2013

1200 supporting the team whist 15,000 petition to keep Cov in Coventry, because we belong in Coventry, and ALL YOUR local businesses have been affected by COVENTRY MOVING to Northampton. Round of a fucking plause.

covcity4life · Aug 14, 2013

plause lol

sorry.

Deleted member 5849 · Aug 14, 2013

It would be far more constructive if we had threads suggesting ways all fans can work together to get a message of Cov in Cov out there.

There was one a few days ago, asking about a banner along such lines to take in. of course it sank without trace among the thread after thread attempting to blackmail, cajole and threaten...

ccfcway · Aug 14, 2013

shmmeee said:
It's not illegal to walk drown Foleshill Road with a pig with "Mohammed" written on it. But you can't expect noone to complain.

Mohammed, oh oh oh, Mohammed oh oh oh. He comes from Barnwell Farm, he is a big fcuker

ohitsaidwalker king power · Aug 14, 2013

Nick said:
So if the players have no loyalty then why did anybody bother at the Ricoh?

Some people just want to go and watch their team on a Saturday.

Agree-I do- but wont- I want to watch my team in the City that bears its name... isn't that the crux of this?

Gint11 · Aug 14, 2013

Get off peoples backs. FFS if they are willing to travel to Sixfields then fair enough. Everyone is entitled to do what the fook they want.

skybluepm2 · Aug 14, 2013

Grappa said:
I'm not sure you do either. The majority in this country have wanted the death penalty reintroduced in every relevant survey in the past 40-odd years.

I want it brought back for when Fisher is found out! He'd be the 1st with a noose around that fat neck of his...if they could find one that fitted :claping hands:

ohitsaidwalker king power · Aug 14, 2013

Nick said:
Is there 100% proof that by not going it will get rid of SISU though?

What PROVEN consequences does the action of people who go to watch at Sixfields have?

There isn't, you're right- but when in life can we be certain of anything? - we take a view, a balance of probability and likelihood when absolute data is denied us.

And so on balance; is it more or less likely, that a hedge fund organisation such as is SISU, is likely to be adversely affected by cashflow denial? Is it more or less likely that such a cashflow problem would force their position? Is it more or less likely that poor business performance expedites SISU withdrawl?.. infinitum

Are there any guarantees?.. No.
Are there risks, Yes- the club could cease to exist.
Is there an option- Yes(?)- support "The lads"(and SISU for they are not mutually exclusive) in the 5 years at Northampton, with a promise to come back somewhere 'near Coventry', to a stadium based on "Operation Brentford" and be forever at best a mid table Championship club.

I say there is NO option but to boycott CCFC playing 'home' games at Sixfield for the greater good-'the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few'.....spock . The time is now to make a stand.

RoboCCFC90 · Aug 14, 2013

I can't understand the need for certain posters to continue pushing this message of stay away from Northampton. People will mkake up there own decisions and will have reasons to justify that which I respect.

However personally I met a few members of the Coventry City London Supporters Club (CCLSC) on the train to Crawley for the first game of the season, they all seemed nice enough blokes and I took a card from one of the chaps about getting in touch, but then I saw the same chap on the piece, on Sky Sports News on Sunday where two fans had to be seperated because of what they felt was right regarding playing at Northampton. Since I saw this I haven't contacted the CCLSC and don't plan too, every fan has an opinion and right to their own, not everyone will agree with their decisions, but you have to respect them.

It has to be said I see the fixtures and sometimes I consider wther I should go to Northampton or not and I have so many reasons why and why not to go, it's a difficult decision for every fan and matters don't need to be made worse by heated arguements about the topic.

Snozz_is_god · Aug 14, 2013

Nick said:
Yes, CCFC is just like Mugabe isn't it?

Bizarrely Robert Mugabe support CCFC

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