So Tim says that he isn't unhappy about not getting the Ricoh and you are still looking for someone else to blame for everything that has happened. What you do most of the time is make out that someone has said something that they haven't by twisting their words whilst saying that you don't have to say anything against SISU as you have said in the past that they have been bad for our club. Yeah right.
Keep up with your veiled insults. Keep up with blaming everyone but SISU if it keeps you happy. Most of us know what has caused all of this shit. SISU didn't start it all. But they are the ones that have lost us the Ricoh with their underhand tactics. Yes CCC have fucked our clubs future up. But they are not the ones to blame for everything.
I'm glad you've learned your new name.
I've never ever not blamed SISU. They are the second worst owners the club has ever had. Not that it excuses the other cunts in the story a share of the blame. The thing is, some of the drivel written on here does continually make excuses for other parties whilst blaming everything on SISU.
I'm glad you've learned your new name.
I've never ever not blamed SISU. They are the second worst owners the club has ever had. Not that it excuses the other cunts in the story a share of the blame. The thing is, some of the drivel written on here does continually make excuses for other parties whilst blaming everything on SISU.
I blame them for our club not owning the Ricoh Fern. Litigation and not wanting to negotiate was always going to end up badly for our club.
So how come that Wasps have got the Ricoh cheaply but it wouldn't have been a good thing for SISU to have taken on the loan?
I agree with you wholeheartedly but must you name call like a 10 year old?
If you are talking to 10 year olds your patience does start to be tested.
Chief Dave experienced the idiot brigade yesterday -- it's really tiresome
The railway is a branch line. It's not a gateway into Coventry. The Novotel nearby is rarely full.
The arena currently has events on a regular basis. Are there going to be even more now it's Wasps home?
Thing is - without the rent strike, without the litigations Higgs would still look to get the formula price (approx. £8m) and CCC wouldn't look to sell.
The club would still pay an exorbitant high rent with very little match day revenue.
There's a reason ACL has been sold at the price it was sold at.
Again, I agree wholeheartedly and and I've have my own run ins as you know. I just don't think Astute should be called names anymore than you should.
Thanks but don't worry. If you can't take childish name calling you shouldn't go on a forum
How was it secure and doing well ? It was just ticking over.
You seem to pick up on anyone's comments and make it out as mainstream.
So effectively SISU managed to drive a local charity out of their support for local sports as Higgs have now said they're focusing on the arts.
So Tim says that he isn't unhappy about not getting the Ricoh and you are still looking for someone else to blame for everything that has happened.
So everything Fisher says is untrue unless it's something that supports your viewpoint? I believe very very little of what he says but what we you really expecting him to say here? "I completely fucked it up and Joy is furious, we've no idea what to do now, the club is screw and it's all my fault"
That has always been the case though. Not just with Astute, to be fair, but to a lot of posters on here. Fisher either tells despicable lies or the terrible truth depending on the argument.
I agree with you wholeheartedly but must you name call like a 10 year old?
Depends
I think this is the quote from The Times, he isn't talking about the land as the property asset, he's talking about Wasps. So either he's said exactly the same answer to the Cov Telegraph about the land as well, or the Telegraph have reported out of context.
"I mention that some Wasps fans believe he bought their club solely to acquire an undervalued property asset. “I’m not a property developer, I’ve never developed anything in my life".
Which is what negotiations would have been about. I agree that SISU had to do something. But litigation and refusing to talk was not the way to go. Joy also refused to talk when better offers came in.
I think this will be a very quite thread in which very few of our council loving colleagues participate.
More egg splattered on their faces.
To be quite honest, I think most of us are bloody sick to the back teeth of 'council loving' 'Sisu apologist' tags being thrown around ad nauseum.
It is all very tiresome and laborious. I don't think anyone loves the council and I don't think anyone loves Sisu. As per usual, the reality is somewhere in the middle. You will always get one or two who will buck the trend and be rather blinkered in their views, but if you ask everyone outright, 'Do you think the council has done no wrong at all in this saga?' the answer will undoubtedly be a no. The council of course have made mistakes.
By the same token we all know that no-one is saying Sisu have done no wrong.
The whole thing is getting really tiresome now and I can well see why threads are going quiet. Same old, same old ..... Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
I frequent less on here these days. It is really becoming dull and mind numbing.
To be quite honest, I think most of us are bloody sick to the back teeth of 'council loving' 'Sisu apologist' tags being thrown around ad nauseum.
It is all very tiresome and laborious. I don't think anyone loves the council and I don't think anyone loves Sisu. As per usual, the reality is somewhere in the middle. You will always get one or two who will buck the trend and be rather blinkered in their views, but if you ask everyone outright, 'Do you think the council has done no wrong at all in this saga?' the answer will undoubtedly be a no. The council of course have made mistakes.
By the same token we all know that no-one is saying Sisu have done no wrong.
The whole thing is getting really tiresome now and I can well see why threads are going quiet. Same old, same old ..... Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
I frequent less on here these days. It is really becoming dull and mind numbing.
Given the fact the company that owns the arena is stockpiled with debt (£17 million I believe before the ACL deal) I hardly think its going to be developing anything do you?
If I was forced into a guess I'd say they would develop, but like you I've no facts either way. Just because you have debt doesn't mean you don't develop, in fact you may well take on debt to develop, an intelligent man like you must know that.
This thread though was about the suggestion that he said something at odds with someone else, but I believe the op may have accidentally mismatched the quotes.
I would say its been the most interesting day on here for years!
Still the price Wasps paid may yet be too high. What happens when CCFC moves out? Will ACL then be able to service the loan to CCC?
Tis the season to be jolly la la la la la
I don't - he has no fucking intention of developing and you'd be an idiot if you think he dies. Hedge funds don't develop - end of.
I don't - he has no fucking intention of developing and you'd be an idiot if you think he dies. Hedge funds don't develop - end of.
I would say its been the most interesting day on here for years!
That has always been the case though. Not just with Astute, to be fair, but to a lot of posters on here. Fisher either tells despicable lies or the terrible truth depending on the argument.
Seems Higgs for many years were saying that whoever was top buy their share of ACL would have to be willing to redevelop the rest of the area too(Though never realised why it should be the job of the football club to do that). and stated this as a reason for selling their share to Wasps.
Well now you've put 'end of', I guess that's that.
Or a full stop?Never could understand the point of that expression. Just use a period, that has been it's purpose for decades. I've used three of them here.
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