James Smith
Well-Known Member
Maybe Tim was just there as a human shield/target to protect the Sisu lady if someone threw a pint etc.
they gave enough of a shit to have a legal team of 8 and the likes of Tim Fisher there....
Making it into a mega trial only serves to frighten the opponents and maybe influence the judge.
So how does it influence the judge?
The judge sees the evidence and decides on the evidence. (S)he's hardly likely to sit at home beforehand and think because SISU has put a counterclaim in, (s)he may as well dismiss the original claim!
I think people are forgetting that it was Higgs that took this to court in the first place not SISU so it's not like its part of some grand master plan to get information.
C'mon now. I don't necessarily buy that story, but are you seriously arguing that there aren't more subtle influences than purely the evidence?
So how does it influence the judge?
The judge sees the evidence and decides on the evidence. (S)he's hardly likely to sit at home beforehand and think because SISU has put a counterclaim in, (s)he may as well dismiss the original claim!
I find it very bizarre the one-eyed determination that he's a fair judge only if the 'right' side wins. I also find it very bizarre the credit people give SISU to be able to influence people, almost as if they're members of the illuminati, and if you rip Fisher's mask off he'll turn out to be a blood drinking lizard!
That will be why he has a beard, to hide the scales.
I'm suggesting the judge sees the evidence and weighs it up based on that evidence, and is far better placed to answer that then anybody else, yes!
There are shades of the 'King is innocent, his appeal is a foregone conclusion, it was all a setup' in some of this prejudging and deciding if SISU win it's because of dastardly tricks, as how could the pure and magnificent charity do anything wrong after all?
Well if the judge finds in their favour, they haven't done anything wrong, and were indeed entirely justified in bringing the case! That really isn't a hard thing to say, is it? Likewise if the judge finds there's no case to answer... they weren't justified in bringing it.
The closed minds and pre-judging of judges is partly why we're fucked, the tunnel vision that marches towards oblivion, forgets the lessons of the past and turns a blind eye to everything bar the current dedicated fashion.
I find it very bizarre the one-eyed determination that he's a fair judge only if the 'right' side wins. I also find it very bizarre the credit people give SISU to be able to influence people, almost as if they're members of the illuminati, and if you rip Fisher's mask off he'll turn out to be a blood drinking lizard!
If you want balance, it works both ways I'm afraid.
Which thus doesn;t preclude the pure and innocent charity from playing psychological tricks, either.
i would say good point
but you bullied me earlier.
Too right, you mentalist!
However the point being that the result to this is valid whoever wins.
Or it's invalid whoever wins.
It can't be valid for one result, and not for another. That's just ridiculous.
Which thus doesn;t preclude the pure and innocent charity from playing psychological tricks, either.
Too right, you mentalist!
However the point being that the result to this is valid whoever wins.
Or it's invalid whoever wins.
It can't be valid for one result, and not for another. That's just ridiculous.
i would say good point
but you bullied me earlier.
This I entirely agree with. Disregard previous essay.
If you feel victimised by a post then please use the button to report the post and we will deal with it as needed. And can we now worry about the match tonight please.
They brought 8 lawyers to this case. Maybe they will need the ricoh to house all their lawyers for the JR.
And those questioning the validity do, in their own way, diminish the validity of a Higgs 'win'.
Imagine the furore that'll happen on here if Grendel, say (to namecheck the obvious) pops on here after a Higgs 'win' suggesting that it was dirty psychological tricks that got that win as opposed to it being an entirely appropriate case to bring. Imagine the uproar if he then added that PWKH only had his position of influence due to marriage, and doesn't deserve it.
It'd be carnage, wouldn't it!
And those questioning the validity do, in their own way, diminish the validity of a Higgs 'win'.
Imagine the furore that'll happen on here if Grendel, say (to namecheck the obvious) pops on here after a Higgs 'win' suggesting that it was dirty psychological tricks that got that win as opposed to it being an entirely appropriate case to bring. Imagine the uproar if he then added that PWKH only had his position of influence due to marriage, and doesn't deserve it.
It'd be carnage, wouldn't it!
Well the Sisu bullies have lost this one. Counter-suing a charity for precisely 10 times their claim, admitting it was 'tit for tat', bringing Tim and a team of 8 and getting it summarily thrown out in one day. Not a great day for the 'batter them in court myth', but we got to the truth of that one!
I dont think this was anything more than 'you take us to court and we will batter you 10 times more'. Cant have done much for the confidence of their legal team for the JR.
the JR is about the source of the funds and their usage. The council as a shareholder has the right to get involved. It's how they got involved that SISU are contesting.Will this verdict have impact on the JR?
I think it has to. I note the telegraph report from SG said the "6 week exclusivity period" ended months before the councils deal with ACL.
To me the JR is over before it's begun. How have sisu got a case? There isn't one and the first judge said last summer there isn't a case and the second judge only have a court date to not hide anything.
Sisu are hanging on by a thread which I am happy about but that means ccfc is also.
Thoughts?
Despite the cases being completely different?
We all want to know the truth. But the more that happens the more we can guess who isn't telling the truth.
Well the Sisu bullies have lost this one. Counter-suing a charity for precisely 10 times their claim, admitting it was 'tit for tat', bringing Tim and a team of 8 and getting it summarily thrown out in one day. Not a great day for the 'batter them in court myth', but we got to the truth of that one!
I dont think this was anything more than 'you take us to court and we will batter you 10 times more'. Cant have done much for the confidence of their legal team for the JR.
I hope to God this is the beginning of the end...if the court cases carry on in this way, SISU will get their JR thrown out. OK they may appeal and or find some other legal way to harass CCC /ACL (as allegedly promised by Joy) but they will probably have to sell the club on, or get their tail between their legs and do a deal on the Ricoh on comprise terms.
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