Honeymoon over (1 Viewer)

covboy1987 · Nov 5, 2019

We have now played at St Andrew's for approx 3 months and whilst it wasn't too bad when we were winning regularly at the start, the move is starting to bite with me as a pain in the backside making the journey effort to attend and although I will see out the season this will be my last if we don't go back to our city -tonights attendance will be probably a record of non -atendance
Attendances will not increase no matter what the hopefuls think, my estimates maybe not exactly accurate but CCFC attendances are set on approx average 6,000 fans from approx 12,500 last season and Wasps are down it looks to about just over 10,000 from at times 20,000+ even touching 30,000+ last season - doesn't take a clever person to understand, that none of this is doing either club any good

HuckerbyDublinWhelan · Nov 5, 2019

Both clubs know this - see the other threads, until that indemnity clause is removed it’s St Andrews for the foreseeable future

Sky Blue Harry H · Nov 5, 2019

Attendances include Accrington, Fleetwood and Wimbledon. Next is Rochdale. When Ipswich, Sunderland and the like turn up attendances will climb a bit. Yes it's a ball ache, but we need to keep our club alive. On the plus side, the footie is much better quality than last season, and in January we're going to have a striker revamp!

Corrado · Nov 5, 2019

Does this really need another thread??

Adge · Nov 5, 2019

Sky Blue Harry H said:
Attendances include Accrington, Fleetwood and Wimbledon. Next is Rochdale. When Ipswich, Sunderland and the like turn up attendances will climb a bit. Yes it's a ball ache, but we need to keep our club alive. On the plus side, the footie is much better quality than last season, and in January we're going to have a striker revamp!

And fair play and hats to all who think that way and attend. But the bottom dollar is it’s not you, I or anyone else who should be put in that position by the powers that be and the fans (whatever your view or who you feel is responsible) should not be made to feel accountable.

SkyBlueDom26 · Nov 5, 2019

Sky Blue Harry H said:
and in January we're going to have a striker revamp!

God i hope so (Excluding Godden)

Sky Blue Pete · Nov 5, 2019

We need to get back to coventry everyone knows this but it has to be sustainable

cc84cov · Nov 5, 2019

SkyBlueDom26 said:
God i hope so (Excluding Godden)

Hiwula & Baka cash in on both if we have chance

SkyBlueDom26 · Nov 5, 2019

cc84cov said:
Hiwula & Baka cash in on both if we have chance

Imagine if we could get cash for both! deffo give Hiwula a few games up top though once he is fit again to see if maybe he can play better as a striker

Saying that after Robins comments on Saturday i think bridge may have been burned

cc84cov · Nov 5, 2019

SkyBlueDom26 said:
Imagine if we could get cash for both! deffo give Hiwula a few games up top though once he is fit again to see if maybe he can play better as a striker

Saying that after Robins comments on Saturday i think bridge may have been burned

He’s not consistent enough mate game by passes him by most weeks he done well once bright was here last season laying balls on a plate week in week out do well to get 500k for both and re invest in something better to play with Godden...Jayden Stockley would be by target

SlowerThanPlatt · Nov 5, 2019

cc84cov said:
He’s not consistent enough mate game by passes him by most weeks he done well once bright was here last season paying balls on a plate week in week out do well to get 500k for both and re invest in something better to play with Godden...Jayden Stockley would be by target

Stockley played the whole game for Preston against Charlton on Sunday where they went top of the league

SkyBlueDom26 · Nov 5, 2019

cc84cov said:
He’s not consistent enough mate game by passes him by most weeks he done well once bright was here last season laying balls on a plate week in week out do well to get 500k for both and re invest in something better to play with Godden...Jayden Stockley would be by target

Number one target for me would be Rose from Mansfield, could get him cheap too as hes out of contract in summer

cc84cov · Nov 5, 2019

SkyBlueDom26 said:
Number one target for me would be Rose from Mansfield, could get him cheap too as hes out of contract in summer

Not prolific enough for me mate we need better if we’re gonna make a promotion charge I feel not gonna be easy to find & I hope we don’t gamble on more players like Baka etc

Alan Dugdales Moustache · Nov 5, 2019

Sky Blue Pete said:
We need to get back to coventry everyone knows this but it has to be sustainable

Staying away from Coventry isn't sustainable .

Broken Hearted Sky Blue · Nov 5, 2019

cc84cov said:
Hiwula & Baka cash in on both if we have chance

robbiekeane · Nov 5, 2019

Adge said:
nd fair play and hats to all who think that way and attend. But the bottom dollar is it’s not you, I or anyone else who should be put in that position by the powers that be and the fans (whatever your view or who you feel is responsible) should not be made to feel accountable.

So because it's not our fault, we shouldn't have to go and support the club? Is that your logic?

Grendel · Nov 5, 2019

robbiekeane said:
So because it's not our fault, we shouldn't have to go and support the club? Is that your logic?

I don’t think logic comes into it

Tommo1993 · Nov 5, 2019

I think he means fans can’t be blamed for the club going under, if it happened. I’m sure people would be quick to blame us but, in general, liability wouldn’t be on fans.

robbiekeane · Nov 5, 2019

Tommo1993 said:
I think he means fans can’t be blamed for the club going under, if it happened. I’m sure people would be quick to blame us but, in general, liability wouldn’t be on fans.

Well it's ridiculous...

If people don't want to go because they can't, or the extra logistics make it harder for them, fair enough.

Don't buy the ethical boycott though because "we should be in Coventry"....what do people actually want the club to do?

Tommo1993 · Nov 5, 2019

robbiekeane said:
Well it's ridiculous...

If people don't want to go because they can't, or the extra logistics make it harder for them, fair enough.

Don't buy the ethical boycott though because "we should be in Coventry"....what do people actually want the club to do?

I don’t think anyone wants them to just accept Wasps extortionate terms. It’s been a few months now and I don’t think anything progressive has been said by the club about returning to the Ricoh or that make believe new ground. But I believe if some substantial evidence came from the club (or owners) that genuine effort was being made, then you’d see a significant rise in support.

pastythegreat · Nov 5, 2019

Tommo1993 said:
I think he means fans can’t be blamed for the club going under, if it happened. I’m sure people would be quick to blame us but, in general, liability wouldn’t be on fans.

People doing NOPM can. The ones who are vocally boycotting in hope of killing the club to rid us of SISU and build a Phoenix club to play at the Ricoh with w**ps.
I'm sure those "fans" can be blamed?!?!

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Grendel · Nov 5, 2019

Tommo1993 said:
I don’t think anyone wants them to just accept Wasps extortionate terms. It’s been a few months now and I don’t think anything progressive has been said by the club about returning to the Ricoh or that make believe new ground. But I believe if some substantial evidence came from the club (or owners) that genuine effort was being made, then you’d see a significant rise in support.

If every Brighton fan had your view in their exile period the club would be long dead - you realise and agree I assume?

Tommo1993 · Nov 5, 2019

Grendel said:
If every Brighton fan had your view in their exile period the club would be long dead - you realise and agree I assume?

Why shouldn’t people want transparency and plans? What would your thoughts be if we’re at SA next season?

Grendel · Nov 5, 2019

Tommo1993 said:
Why shouldn’t people want transparency and plans? What would your thoughts be if we’re at SA next season?

Can you answer my question first?

Tommo1993 · Nov 5, 2019

Grendel said:
Can you answer my question first?

As far as I know the circumstances at BHAFC were completely different to ours. The majority shareholder implemented the sale of the ground and the board went with it.

Now, why shouldn’t people want transparency and plans? What would your thoughts be if we’re at SA next season?

Deleted member 5849 · Nov 5, 2019

Grendel said:
If every Brighton fan had your view in their exile period the club would be long dead - you realise and agree I assume?

Gates weren't great in Gillingham. They needed to come back, even to a temporary stadium.

Grendel · Nov 5, 2019

Tommo1993 said:
As far as I know the circumstances at BHAFC were completely different to ours. The majority shareholder implemented the sale of the ground and the board went with it.

Now, why shouldn’t people want transparency and plans? What would your thoughts be if we’re at SA next season?

I would keep going as with wasps financial turmoil keeping the club afloat is vital

Grendel · Nov 5, 2019

Deleted member 5849 said:
Gates weren't great in Gillingham. They needed to come back, even to a temporary stadium.

Those fans made an 80 mile trip for two years

Tommo1993 · Nov 5, 2019

Grendel said:
I would keep going as with wasps financial turmoil keeping the club afloat is vital

Can agree on something, but do you think it’s a safe business plan from our side, to hope that they carry on going downhill?

Deleted member 5849 · Nov 5, 2019

Grendel said:
Those fans made an 80 mile trip for two years

They did, and there weren't many of them! It was encouraged by an active attempt by the club to get back where it belonged, too.

You've said yourself St Andrews is unsustainable. If the plan is to sit it out, the owners might be better off just being upfront about it. Atm there's a fear we've gone away, and there are zero efforts to get back.

The coventrian · Nov 5, 2019

Deleted member 5849 said:
They did, and there weren't many of them! It was encouraged by an active attempt by the club to get back where it belonged, too.

You've said yourself St Andrews is unsustainable. If the plan is to sit it out, the owners might be better off just being upfront about it. Atm there's a fear we've gone away, and there are zero efforts to get back.

Looks like sisu are happy to keep the club out of the city in the hope of busting a sporting franchise that they ironically brought here through their pathetic actions. This last 5/6 years has just been a complete waste of time.

Wyken Sky Blue · Nov 5, 2019

Tommo1993 said:
Can agree on something, but do you think it’s a safe business plan from our side, to hope that they carry on going downhill?

Realistically I think this is the only hope of us going back to Coventry.

Either Wasps go bust, Wasps relocate elsewhere or most probably bring us back to the Ricoh which will return some capital back to them at least.

Even if we are back at the Ricoh I think Wasps will struggle to keep afloat, a few hundred grand a year won't balance the books!

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cc84cov · Nov 5, 2019

The coventrian said:
Looks like sisu are happy to keep the club out of the city in the hope of busting a sporting franchise that they ironically brought here through their pathetic actions. This last 5/6 years has just been a complete waste of time.

I wouldn’t say they brought them here

The coventrian · Nov 6, 2019

cc84cov said:
I wouldn’t say they brought them here

Well they gifted them an empty stadium on a plate so they weren't far off.

HuckerbyDublinWhelan · Nov 6, 2019

The coventrian said:
Well they gifted them an empty stadium on a plate so they weren't far off.

It wasn’t really in SISUs remit to gift them the Ricoh - that would be the council who sold it on the cheap with an extended 250 year lease

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