How do we legitimise our voice? (1 Viewer)

Briles · Jan 14, 2020

I would actually have less respect for wasps if they removed the indemnity clause. Its potentially £30 million quid up in the air. What I don't understand is if they're so vehemently adamant of no wrong doing, why would they need an indemnity clause in the first place.

Although, if the legals are going ahead anyway regardless, you'd have thought they would try and recoup some costs back directly from SISU via rent

Sky Blue Pete · Jan 14, 2020

shmmeee said:
Id lose the kisses at the end

edit:
In all seriousness the only bit I’m not sure on is commenting on going to games. It can be divisive. Not against, just not sure. Good work otherwise. Maybe explain why the indemnity clause needs dropping (and the legals for balance)

What were you thinking shmmee?

explanations I mean?

indemnity - not ccfc who are at fault why should they be responsible

Legals - a line needs drawing under the whole mess and the Eu complaint allows for wasps and ccfc to come together????

SBbucks · Jan 14, 2020

Sky Blue Pete said:
So a statement from Sky Blues Talk community issued as a press release.

I can text it to cwr through Stuart
Email it to Coventry observer

Get full agreement on here of as many as we can and needs to mention nothing other than the current position as we see it form 7500 members

Starter for 10 then

We, the Coventry City football club community on the Sky Blues Talk forum wish to make the following statement to express our dissatisfaction at the current situation regarding Coventry City playing their games away from the city that bares our name.

We need to be back playing our home games in Coventry. Staying away is playing Russian roulette with our future and our existence.

We acknowledge that our fan base have different opinions on whether to travel to St Andrews this season and hold no grudge against any fan attending or not attending. We recognise Mark Robins and the squads commitment to success on the pitch and agree with him that the more supporters able to financially support the team will increase the chances of success this season and make no difference to decisions being taken behind the scenes regarding moving back to the Ricoh.

So we publicly call on wasps to remove the requirement for Ccfc to sign an indemnity clause to cover any losses relating to the Eu commission complaint and for Ccfc / Sisu to recommit to their legal agreement to not pursue any legal action against wasps regarding the sale of the Ricoh.

We further call on the local media to present an unbiased presentation of the facts and to pursue a resolution to the current impasse enabling us to move back to Coventry without delay

Pusb

Pete Xxxxxxxx surname if needed on behalf sky blues talk.

Pete, great effort, thank you on behalf of all like-minded supporters. My only comment would be to tidy up spelling & punctuation; this is important for a press release. If you don't pay attention to this then it gives other parties a stick to beat you (us) with. I'm happy to help if needed. Please take this in the spirit that it is meant.

Sky Blue Pete · Jan 14, 2020

Briles said:
I would actually have less respect for wasps if they removed the indemnity clause. Its potentially £30 million quid up in the air. What I don't understand is if they're so vehemently adamant of no wrong doing, why would they need an indemnity clause in the first place.

It’s the sticking point in us moving back.

Sky Blue Pete · Jan 14, 2020

SBbucks said:
Pete, great effort, thank you on behalf of all like-minded supporters. My only comment would be to tidy up spelling & punctuation; this is important for a press release. If you don't pay attention to this then it gives other parties a stick to beat you (us) with. I'm happy to help if needed. Please take this in the spirit that it is meant.

Can I send the final version to you to do that please?

Briles · Jan 14, 2020

Sky Blue Pete said:
It’s the sticking point in us moving back.

Its a great press release bud, I'd be happy to have my name on it :happy:

PurpleBin · Jan 14, 2020

Thanks for that Pete. Looks good.

shmmeee · Jan 14, 2020

Briles said:
I would actually have less respect for wasps if they removed the indemnity clause. Its potentially £30 million quid up in the air. What I don't understand is if they're so vehemently adamant of no wrong doing, why would they need an indemnity clause in the first place.

That would imply Wasps have detailed and intimate knowledge of state aid procedures and can judge such a case. I doubt that’s the case.

Nick · Jan 14, 2020

shmmeee said:
That would imply Wasps have detailed and intimate knowledge of state aid procedures and can judge such a case. I doubt that’s the case.

You would have thought that would be part of due dilligence?

Liquid Gold · Jan 14, 2020

I would love it if that got released and people from the trust came out and said "They've said they have 7,500 members but I signed up once and never use it."

Nick · Jan 14, 2020

Liquid Gold said:
I would love it if that got released and people from the trust came out and said "They've said they have 7,500 members but I signed up once and never use it."

Oh people will try and discredit, Andy Turner tried it by giving it the "Who are you" after the Telegraph had been taking quotes off here for an article.

Just keep it to the point, Wasps do this, SISU do that. Sort it out.

shmmeee · Jan 14, 2020

Sky Blue Pete said:
What were you thinking shmmee?

explanations I mean?

indemnity - not ccfc who are at fault why should they be responsible

Legals - a line needs drawing under the whole mess and the Eu complaint allows for wasps and ccfc to come together????

Off the top of my head:

Indemnity - Such a clause has the potential to bankrupt the club through no fault of their own. Any potential unlawful actions would be between CCC and Wasps.

Legals - While these are ongoing we cannot rebuild our relationship with the city and need that to return whether at the Ricoh or a new ground. Also Sisu agreed to this previously so what’s changed?

SBbucks · Jan 14, 2020

Sky Blue Pete said:
Can I send the final version to you to do that please?

Absolutely. I meant to say we should do that once only, when we have a "final" version of it. Suggest DM it to me when you're happy, and I'll tidy it and DM it back.

shmmeee · Jan 14, 2020

Nick said:
You would have thought that would be part of due dilligence?

They may well have got legal advice. The council certainly will have. But the law isn’t ever clear cut and will depend on interpretations they can’t predict.

Liquid Gold · Jan 14, 2020

Nick said:
Oh people will try and discredit, Andy Turner tried it by giving it the "Who are you" after the Telegraph had been taking quotes off here for an article.

Just keep it to the point, Wasps do this, SISU do that. Sort it out.

Yeah I saw that, they really hate it when they're called out and they just try to shut it down by putting attention on the person instead of their argument.

If he had the bollocks to do his job then it wouldn't be an issue.

PurpleBin · Jan 14, 2020

Nick said:
Oh people will try and discredit, Andy Turner tried it by giving it the "Who are you" after the Telegraph had been taking quotes off here for an article.

Just keep it to the point, Wasps do this, SISU do that. Sort it out.

So important that last bit. Can't be basing anything on opinion and what some fella down the pub said. "These are the facts - this is what we want"

rob9872 · Jan 14, 2020

Nick said:
Oh people will try and discredit, Andy Turner tried it by giving it the "Who are you" after the Telegraph had been taking quotes off here for an article.

Just keep it to the point, Wasps do this, SISU do that. Sort it out.

My favourite was last January. I heard Doyler to Notts Co and JCH to Fleetwood. I shared them here, even though at the time there was no report of JCH going anywhere and I was shot down on both. Didn't stop the Telegraph reporting it as their sources said Jono to Fleetwood lol. Even better when it transpired he was going, but actually to BR instead

Briles · Jan 14, 2020

Breaking news....

shepardo01 · Jan 14, 2020

Sky Blue Pete said:
What were you thinking shmmee?

explanations I mean?

indemnity - not ccfc who are at fault why should they be responsible

Legals - a line needs drawing under the whole mess and the Eu complaint allows for wasps and ccfc to come together????

LEGALS - does it need to include a question to Wasps/Eastwood about his request to "drop legals"... which he is interpreting as EU complaint, which CAN'T actually be dropped. Him stating this in the press is misleading - Midlands today REMOVED his quotes on this on their TV segment when it was questioned on twitter.
Guess what - CWR didn't bother to remove it when sound was played, and guess what, neither did the Waspograph when they reported on it...

Sky_Blue_Dreamer · Jan 14, 2020

Grendel said:
The real thing to do is turn up to a meeting en mass and bring them all down through tbd rules of their own constitution

That sounds a bit left-wing militant, work-to-rule like for you G!

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