Otis
Well-Known Member
They nullified us by putting us on the back foot and they started overrunning us through the middle of the park at pace. We should have countered that.
I don't think Bury did nullify us though. They were certainly better second half, but I still think we controlled much of the game. I'm also not sure what system he could've changed to, possibly through his own fault, we have no pace and therefore can't play with much width. He brought Ball on, so we could try and be more direct when the scores were level. When I look at the bench from today, I'm just not sure how things could've been dramatically changed.
Reactive, not proactive, we were shite all second half and yet nothing was done until it was 2-2, very poor after taking a 2-0 lead, we need a proper right back pronto, also the team is too narrow, get some proper wide men out there
Reactive, not proactive, we were shite all second half and yet nothing was done until it was 2-2, very poor after taking a 2-0 lead, we need a proper right back pronto, also the team is too narrow, get some proper wide men out there
Reactive, not proactive, we were shite all second half and yet nothing was done until it was 2-2, very poor after taking a 2-0 lead, we need a proper right back pronto, also the team is too narrow, get some proper wide men out there
If we blame Thorn for the second half performance today,
Then who do we praise for the first half performance ?
If we blame Thorn for the second half performance today,
Then who do we praise for the first half performance ?
At half time i was thinking about how it would be great to be able to make positive at posts tonight!
I was thinking the same thing. The way we pressed high up the pitch in the first half was excellent.
Vice-versa should surely apply.
That's precisely my point, I have only seen the negative comments from the same select few ... still waiting to see the positive one's.
Even you couldn't answer the question that I was asking.
The game is 90 minutes though! If we played like we did for the first half and defended the lead and won 2-0 people would be full of praise! Instead we dropped 2 points like we have done so often!
Thorn did well in the first half as he had the players not as deep and doing well. It is the same old that we go through the game as we set out and once opposition managers change things, we don't.
That's precisely my point, I have only seen the negative comments from the same select few ... still waiting to see the positive one's.
Even you couldn't answer the question that I was asking.
Well it's a start Nick.
Well done mate :claping hands:
Earlier you started a thread stating the players were at fault for the second half.
Is Thorn only responsible for good periods and the players for anything bad?
Surely overall responsibility(good or bad) lies with the manager?
So, still avoiding it then
You have blamed Thorn for the second half, but not yet praised him for the first ?
And to quote you "Vice-versa should surely apply"
The players don't have to take responsibility. That sucks, I know all of us feel that we would give maximum effort for a game and club we love in return for massive rewards. But there are just too many of them...if you want to improve an army, you change the leadership, you don't wait for the soldiers to have a personal reinvention.
So, still avoiding it then
You have blamed Thorn for the second half, but not yet praised him for the first ?
And to quote you "Vice-versa should surely apply"
if you want to improve the army then get better soldiers.
soldiers have to learn fast in war or they die, if players don't learn fast then we wont win simple the players need to learn how to keep a lead
Thought it was obvious, Thorn the manager for the whole game, so credit for first half, debit for second.
Not apportioning praise or blame to different people/ groups to make a stance appear better.
That's precisely my point, I have only seen the negative comments from the same select few ... still waiting to see the positive one's.
Even you couldn't answer the question that I was asking.
The bottom line is that the buck stops with the manager.
And if it was the players at fault just who brought those players to the club? :thinking about:
:claping hands::claping hands: A step closer to praise. ( I think )
Oh, it is obvious, it's obvious that there is a minority on here who are quick to blame a manager, but not so quick, and even some times dam right reluctant to balance it out.
Example being, If it was Thorn's fault for the second half, then Thorn was the reason for the very good first half.
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