If Norwich Go Down (1 Viewer)

pusbccfc · Feb 2, 2016

Watched their match tonight and they were very poor. Huge chance of going down.

How much money could we possibly lose if they do get relegated? I would imagine the clauses a for goals scored in the Premier League etc.

I imagine the lad himself wouldn't be too happy as well, but surely he considered this happening.

SkyBlue_Bear83 · Feb 2, 2016

I'd laugh if next year he was sitting on the bench of a championship club whilst we were playing in the championship also.

pusbccfc · Feb 2, 2016

CCFC said:
I'd laugh if next year he was sitting on the bench of a championship club whilst we were playing in the championship also.

Would be embarrassing for him.

stevefloyd · Feb 2, 2016

He would be sitting there thinking they can laugh as much as they want I am on another half million pounds a year

robbiethemole · Feb 2, 2016

if they drop surely they will have to reduce players and salaries?? might not be as lucrative as first thought

SkyBlue_Bear83 · Feb 2, 2016

stevefloyd said:
He would be sitting there thinking they can laugh as much as they want I am on another half million pounds a year

And I'd laugh louder by knowing his career would be progressing further by playing first team championship football which he would have had with us.

Nick · Feb 2, 2016

CCFC said:
And I'd laugh louder by knowing his career would be progressing further by playing first team championship football which he would have had with us.

Look at Bigi for example. If he was on the 19k reported, thats nearly a mill a year. was it a 4 or 5 year contract he had?

Johhny Blue · Feb 2, 2016

Why is everyone assuming that if Norwich go down we will be playing them next season?

SkyBlue_Bear83 · Feb 2, 2016

Johhny Blue said:
Why is everyone assuming that if Norwich go down we will be playing them next season?

We're not, would just be amusing if it did happen.

Gazolba · Feb 2, 2016

If Norwich go down and sack their manager, TM would be a prime candidate and could end up managing Maddison again.

Brylowes · Feb 2, 2016

Gazolba said:
If Norwich go down and sack their manager, TM would be a prime candidate and could end up managing Maddison again.

As last night,if I were TM I would be seeking alternative employment as we speak

Brylowes · Feb 2, 2016

Gazolba said:
If Norwich go down and sack their manager, TM would be a prime candidate and could end up managing Maddison again.

If Ipswich don't go up,expect McMad to leave mutually & that is the job for TM

PVA · Feb 2, 2016

If he had gone to Liverpool or Spurs or arsenal then he'd be playing in the championship next season, so in that sense it doesn't make much difference.

Covstu · Feb 3, 2016

Why do we think he is going to sit on the bench?

Sick Boy · Feb 3, 2016

Brylowes said:
As last night,if I were TM I would be seeking alternative employment as we speak

That's because you are weak.

Sick Boy · Feb 3, 2016

Covstu said:
Why do we think he is going to sit on the bench?

It's straw clutching a showing a lack of class, a bit like how certain fans went on Southampton's message board taking the piss when they turned down sisu's offer to takeover.

JimmyHillsbeard · Feb 3, 2016

Brylowes said:
If Ipswich don't go up,expect McMad to leave mutually & that is the job for TM

Doubt it Wd be mutual he's just signed an extended contract

http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35382376

Brylowes · Feb 3, 2016

Sick Boy said:
That's because you are weak.

No it's because as a football manager at any level,you have to believe you can take that team forward,from whatever position it may be in. Otherwise what is the point,I'm sure he now realises the type of club he is at.
I will still be going to watch our club at whatever depths they sink us to,supporters don't really have a choice,employees definitely do. Ipswich Town is a massive possibility in the summer,TM is very highly regarded there,and would be given the
tools to have a real go at promotion.IMHO. Also TM.MV & JC all played there together,in one of there more
successful periods

Hobo · Feb 3, 2016

Brylowes said:
No it's because as a football manager at any level,you have to believe you can take that team forward,from whatever position it may be in. Otherwise what is the point,I'm sure he now realises the type of club he is at.
I will still be going to watch our club at whatever depths they sink us to,supporters don't really have a choice,employees definitely do. Ipswich Town is a massive possibility in the summer,TM is very highly regarded there,and would be given the
tools to have a real go at promotion.IMHO. Also TM.MV & JC all played there together,in one of there more
successful periods

You have a point there. Especially with the moronic side of our fan base wanting him sacked; who seem unable to look at the bigger picture and appreciate what he is doing.

Nick · Feb 3, 2016

Brylowes said:
No it's because as a football manager at any level,you have to believe you can take that team forward,from whatever position it may be in. Otherwise what is the point,I'm sure he now realises the type of club he is at.
I will still be going to watch our club at whatever depths they sink us to,supporters don't really have a choice,employees definitely do. Ipswich Town is a massive possibility in the summer,TM is very highly regarded there,and would be given the
tools to have a real go at promotion.IMHO. Also TM.MV & JC all played there together,in one of there more
successful periods

Every football manager has to deal with players being sold. Especially in the lower leagues, the big test of his skills is what he does now.

Maddison wasn't a key player for us (he probably would have been) so Mowbray will be used to life without him.

Brylowes · Feb 3, 2016

Nick said:
Every football manager has to deal with players being sold. Especially in the lower leagues, the big test of his skills is what he does now.

Maddison wasn't a key player for us (he probably would have been) so Mowbray will be used to life without him.

It's not that he was sold,it's the manner in which he was sold,it smacks of desperation by a group of amateurs

westcountry_skyblue · Feb 3, 2016

Brylowes said:
It's not that he was sold,it's the manner in which he was sold,it smacks of desperation by a group of amateurs

Bloody hell mate get a grip,Shall I get the rope ready? It's like any job better wages and you go weather you like it or not,Football is a business now money talks with transfers and wages.
Even the top clubs here sell when Barca or Real Madrid come calling !!!

Brylowes · Feb 3, 2016

westcountry_skyblue said:
Bloody hell mate get a grip,Shall I get the rope ready? It's like any job better wages and you go weather you like it or not,Football is a business now money talks with transfers and wages.
Even the top clubs here sell when Barca or Real Madrid come calling !!!

The key point in what I said:it's the manner in which he was sold. Not all clubs grasp a last minute/first offer that comes
along.Jesus Sorry for feeling some passion,this is a football club you know,for half on here it's more like a committee
meeting down the Salvation Army.

mark82 · Feb 3, 2016

Brylowes said:
The key point in what I said:it's the manner in which he was sold. Not all clubs grasp a last minute/first offer that comes
along.Jesus Sorry for feeling some passion,this is a football club you know,for half on here it's more like a committee
meeting down the Salvation Army.

1. We still have him for this season so not like we couldn't get a replacement in time.

2. TM has said time & again that player sales are not really his remit. That is what Mark Venus is for and TM trusts him. MV would certainly have been involved in this deal even if the ultimate decision came from above. You can't have it both ways and moan about players being sold when you brought in the guy in charge of such dealings.

3. Who says TM didn't sanction this anyway.

4. TM may be given every penny of the fee to spend in June enabling us to build a Championship standard squad if we are promoted or a promotion winning squad if not. Even a small portion of that goes a long way in this division.

I'm as disappointed as the next man (see my deadline night overreaction thread) but we will only know if this is a good or bad deal in a couple of years time.

Brylowes · Feb 3, 2016

mark82 said:
1. We still have him for this season so not like we couldn't get a replacement in time.

2. TM has said time & again that player sales are not really his remit. That is what Mark Venus is for and TM trusts him. MV would certainly have been involved in this deal even if the ultimate decision came from above. You can't have it both ways and moan about players being sold when you brought in the guy in charge of such dealings.

3. Who says TM didn't sanction this anyway.

4. TM may be given every penny of the fee to spend in June enabling us to build a Championship standard squad if we are promoted or a promotion winning squad if not. Even a small portion of that goes a long way in this division.

I'm as disappointed as the next man (see my deadline night overreaction thread) but we will only know if this is a good or bad deal in a couple of years time.

1.we could do without him for the rest of the season,so no need to replace,some of the money could have been used
for much needed striker or winger or both.
2.This was a rushed deal,at what level do you really think MV was involved,do you think his opinion was sought
and/or considered.
3.Your point 2.renders point 3.void.
4.I can only go on their history at the helm, and if you believe that,well at best I think you're gullible,at worst deluded.

fernandopartridge · Feb 3, 2016

Brylowes said:
No it's because as a football manager at any level,you have to believe you can take that team forward,from whatever position it may be in. Otherwise what is the point,I'm sure he now realises the type of club he is at.
I will still be going to watch our club at whatever depths they sink us to,supporters don't really have a choice,employees definitely do. Ipswich Town is a massive possibility in the summer,TM is very highly regarded there,and would be given the
tools to have a real go at promotion.IMHO. Also TM.MV & JC all played there together,in one of there more
successful periods

Unfounded drivel

matesx · Feb 3, 2016

I concur. Utter drivel.

Brylowes · Feb 3, 2016

fernandopartridge said:
Unfounded drivel

Well thought out.
we will see in the summer.

Brylowes · Feb 3, 2016

matesx said:
I concur. Utter drivel.

Well if you concur,say no more.

matesx · Feb 3, 2016

Have you got 6 numbers for tonight?

Brylowes · Feb 3, 2016

Yeah. We're having Chinese

Captain Dart · Feb 3, 2016

robbiethemole said:
if they drop surely they will have to reduce players and salaries?? might not be as lucrative as first thought

The thing is you see that Premiership contracts don't normally have wage reductions on demotion, the parachute payments are to sort of cover the transition to a lower salary regime, with cheaper players. Of course often clubs can't ship out the expensive flops & end up being plunged into deeper debt. While the players have upper hand in the negotiations then the post relegation financial mayhem will continue.

henry the wasp · Feb 3, 2016

I'd expect quite a few clubs to have relegation clauses in contracts.

Brylowes · Feb 3, 2016

Norwich are really good at this,they don't push the boat out to far on wages,and keep a close handle on contracts.
Think they are one step away from being prem regulars like Stoke,Saints,West Ham.
Even relagation I don't think would set them back to far.

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