If the fans owned the club.... (1 Viewer)

If we're talking the same distance from Cov we are now, no. That's a pain and my main issue with the whole shebang, so 'where we play' is more important to me as it stands now.

Depends where it is, same as if it was SISU.

The team needs to play in Coventry, in the 80's and 90's I didn't give a monkeys who the owner was all I cared about was the players, the manager, and the team we were going to playing next. I miss those days.

I think fan ownership is a non starter, lets be honest the majority of the time we the fans cant agree who is man of the match let alone having to chose who should be our manager, or who to sign. Look at the amount of groups claiming to speak for us when in fact none of them do.

I think a fan should own the club and not someone from the outside.

wafw1971 said:

The team needs to play in Coventry, in the 80's and 90's I didn't give a monkeys who the owner was all I cared about was the players, the manager, and the team we were going to playing next. I miss those days.

I think fan ownership is a non starter, lets be honest the majority of the time we the fans cant agree who is man of the match let alone having to chose who should be our manager, or who to sign. Look at the amount of groups claiming to speak for us when in fact none of them do.

I think a fan should own the club and not someone from the outside.

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Footballs moved on a long way. The Days of a local self built business man owning the club he supported from the stands as a boy have long gone. The game as a whole is completely shagged!

Sad times..... Such a shame

We need to get past the matter of who owns the stadium.
As fans we don't really care.
Owned by CCFC with a huge mortgage, owned by Otium, owned by ACL and rented.
People seem to forget that once you own the stadium you have all the bills for it, a huge cost in itself.

Fans will never own it so its not really relevant.
If we did own it we would try to maximise our profits, cut costs to below our income, consider the best location and no doubt get the wrath of fans who didn't own the stadium.

If the fans owned the club we would play at the Ricoh.

andyboy81 said:

Footballs moved on a long way. The Days of a local self built business man owning the club he supported from the stands as a boy have long gone. The game as a whole is completely shagged!

Sad times..... Such a shame

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Dave Whelan, Mike Ashley, Steve Gibson etc ?

If the fans owned the club we wouldn't be able to afford to play at the Ricoh.

hill83 said:

If the fans owned the club we wouldn't be able to afford to play at the Ricoh.

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its FREE :wave:

This is a good question. Throughout this mess, I've often thought – how would a fan-owned club deal with this? Would there be more pressure on the stadium owners to cut a better deal?

Looking at the likes of AFC Wimbledon, who still play away from Wimbledon (although I've heard that they might have a chance to return) you have to go with what you can afford. Trying to go back to an expensive London borough when your financial ceiling is League 1 is going to be hard.

FC United of Manchester on the other hand have just started building their new stadium 3 miles north east of Manchester City centre whilst the club they split from (Man Utd) play in a different borough (Trafford) but only 2 miles SW from the centre of Manchester. Interestingly, the FCUM venue is in Moston which is next to Newton Heath where Man Utd first started.

There's Grimsby playing in Cleethorpes but then the two towns are next to each other. Cov is a different prospect. Very well defined with a fair distance between other places.

I suppose it comes down to how people feel and how times change as the memory fades. In London Arsenal made the move across the river from Woolwich to Highbury and Millwall went the other way from the Isle of Dogs to Deptford to Bermondsey. Do any of their fans care now?

I think that if CCFC we entirely fan-owned then we'd have sunk a few divisions and be looking at a sub-10,000 or even sub-6,000 ground so there would be more options within the City and you'd have to assume that CCC would be more amenable to the club building in the City. FCUM have received grants from the City of Manchester I believe. Regeneration, regeneration, regeneration & all that.

So I think fans would be more willing to accept a move outside because they'd have a closer bond with the club (ownership) and so be more pragmatic to the financial realities.

I'm not having a pop here as I genuinely respect all fans' decision to how they follow the team these days but I get the feeling that there are a fair few of the more hardcore NOPM CCFC fans who would accept a drop into the Conference leagues as an opportunity to fully own the club.

The overarching problem with fan ownership is that until the whole way that football is run in England is completely overhauled (unlikely given the power of the Prem and successive governments not really giving a toss) fully fan-owned clubs will have a ceiling of League 2 or maybe League 1 if they have a big enough fan base (e.g. Pompey) but to get up any higher, the bigger money has to come in at some point (e.g. Swansea)

The trick is to get a fan-owner(s) relationship going and work to get at least one fan-elected board member and a share of ownership before your club disappears down the plughole

ccfcway said:

its FREE :wave:

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Ha ha! Yep, you are in for a shock when all the bills roll in when you get your own house.

I thought it was "free"?

ccfcway said:

its FREE :wave:

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If I was part-owner I'd make sure all players shaved those sideburns for a start.

torchomatic said:

I thought it was "free"?

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"I'm free!"* LOL!

(*That's not me, by the way, it was an impression (if that's possible on an internet forum, LOL!!!) of Mr Humphries - I'm not gay or anything).

ajsccfc said:

If I was part-owner I'd make sure all players shaved those sideburns for a start.

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So you'd be trimming the squad then*!!! It's a Friday bombastic LOLtastic slam dunk!!! LOL!!!

(*It's a pun on the word 'trimming', which you would do if you cut your sideburns, and also what a club does when it sells players or cancels their contract!)

ajsccfc said:

If I was part-owner I'd make sure all players shaved those sideburns for a start.

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That Don Mattingly, he NEVER LISTENS.

The Penguin said:

That Don Mattingly, he NEVER LISTENS.

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Bonus point for quality Simpsons reference

If the fans owned the club....

...we'd probably have an even greater split in supporters views than we do now....and we'd probably face liquidation quicker than you can say "hedge-fund"....

If 20,000 of you lot give me £500 each, I'll buy it and own it with the cash to save too many arguments ?!

Ashdown1 said:

If 20,000 of you lot give me £500 each, I'll buy it and own it with the cash to save too many arguments ?!

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That would purchase the leasehold.
Do we need to give you another £5000 each to own the freehold?

What about running costs and paying the players and staff. We all slag Sisu off but it's serious money involved and there's no fucking way I'm stumping up anything. All they'll be getting is my season ticket money if we come back. Which to be honest probably means fuck all in the grand scheme of things.

Yeah the issue I have with Sisu is where they moved us to. I'd have the same issue even if Jimmy Hill himself did it.

I hate Sisu because of the move, I don't hate the move because of Sisu.

italiahorse said:

That would purchase the leasehold.
Do we need to give you another £5000 each to own the freehold?

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Someone's going to be buying a private island at this rate

Lets not feel too sorry for the scumbags. They've been paying ridiculous wages as well as high rent. Their budgets to revenue ratio has been suicidal, they've had 6 years to get their house in order and failed ! With this years young squad, a lowered rent, no 'Admin charges' etc and 11000 fans through the gates for home matches they would have been close to break even this term !

What schmmeee said. "I hate Sisu because of the move, I don't hate the move because of Sisu."

That's my take too.
The ground has to be in Coventry.

Although I still don't like Sisu either.

standupforcity said:

If we owned the club, would you be happy to play outside Coventry if the Ricoh wasn't available? So in other words, what's more important, who owns the club or where we play?

And let's try and leave names, Sisu et al, out of this one...this is not about your thoughts on present ownership or ongoing disputes.

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The club must play in Coventry. END OF!

Is that a clear enough answer.

standupforcity said:

If we owned the club, would you be happy to play outside Coventry if the Ricoh wasn't available? So in other words, what's more important, who owns the club or where we play?

And let's try and leave names, Sisu et al, out of this one...this is not about your thoughts on present ownership or ongoing disputes.

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We could never afford the club, so no discussion to have on ground relocation :thinking about:

italiahorse said:

We need to get past the matter of who owns the stadium.
As fans we don't really care.

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The stadium is key, it's in our own interests to care who owns it!

Fan ownership has a terrible record. Enthusiastic amateurs = failure.

Not to say we could possibly be as bad as SISU as we would not deliberately destroy the club.

SkyBlueBlood said:

Fan ownership has a terrible record. Enthusiastic amateurs = failure.

Not to say we could possibly be as bad as SISU as we would not deliberately destroy the club.

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Or look for childish reasons to sue our own fans.