italiahorse
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Probably in the 70s
Probably in the 70sIs it hell, now Coventry even though third tier is and that is a fact
No now people in New Zealand never heard of wasps but have Coventry. Just because you'd never heard of CoventryProbably in the 70s
Doh! and the point is? CCFC aren't known in any of these countries either, maybe Germany.
Are your trying hard to be a thick twat or does it come naturally?
Italia said that Wasps would never change their name to Coventry Wasps, as Wasps is a brand name, known globally. I merely pointed out the fact that Wasps are not a global name, and my answer had fuck all to do with CCFC, like your point has fuck all to do with my answer.
What's your point stalker?
Once again, there is no need to call people thick twats, it's just not necessary and the use of the word 'fuck' in your replies is not clever.
Italia is right, they won't change the name to Coventry Wasps for the reasons he stated.
You were just trying to rubbish Italia who said it was a globally recognised brand, point scoring or something, Jesus get a life.
It makes no difference that Wasps aren't a global brand, they are probably well know enough in rugby playing countries and that's all that matters.
Now may I suggest if you don't like my post ignore them & I'll ignore yours. Because it's quite clear to me you aren't a nice person and I doubt you'll see things the same way as me.
They would just cut the budgets to suit...Can someone help me out on this one ?
If there was a mass boycott, iknow there wont but humour me , could SISU deliberateley sink us or are they duty bound in law, and the football leagues commitments to the supporters of ccfc to unload the golden ticket to an incomming mug , sorry i mean buyer
Which other London sides are moving out of the capital? Haven't London Irish just opened talks to move back to London, ground sharing with Brentford?
London Welsh recently moved back to the London borough of Richmond having played in Oxford for a few years.
Saracens moved back to Hendon in North London in 2013 after playing (not a million miles away but outside of GL nevertheless) in Watford for a few years.
You dont carry on paying the wages when no ones coming in your shopThey would just cut the budgets to suit...
You close the shop down, not sure we want to force the closure of the club!You dont carry on paying the wages when no ones coming in your shop
post #112You close the shop down, not sure we want to force the closure of the club!
You close the shop down, not sure we want to force the closure of the club!
Known in Rugby playing country's. I doubt they are well known in Brazil, Germany or Indonesia to name but a few.
Doh! and the point is? CCFC aren't known in any of these countries either, maybe Germany.
I agree with that analysis OSB, but what of the stadium naming rights?Never going to happen in my opinion.
How can people argue that Wasps have problems paying off their bond debt then argue that they should shell out millions to purchase/run CCFC?
Yes the shares are worth £1 but it is the amount of cash flow required to run the club that is the problem, in 2015 CCFC made over £3m in losses that need to be funded
What security does CCFC bring with it to back up any debt required to run it?
There is no cash pot available to invest in CCFC
Would the acquisition add to the security provided for the bonds or would giving CCFC a 100 year lease do that better with out adding to risk
yes they could save some overhead but not at the Academy, Ryton etc the only probable cost savings look to be senior management and interest, you couldn't save on managers, coaches, players which form the major costs. Major costs have already been slashed and the overlap of functions is not great so where are the savings that make the difference?
how does owning CCFC improve the Wasps Holdings group? From where I look at the situation it doesn't it adds risk and uncertainty. Effectively asking Wasps, ACL to fund CCFC
It is no good saying CCFC could share the other incomes at the Ricoh - to do that means Wasps RFC, ACL, Compass have to give up income when their own success is under pinned by that income in the first place. The logic is that to gain the incomes then CCFC would have to contribute more in rent etc that doesn't change by Wasps owning CCFC. Taking that a step further then would that still leave CCFC loss making and a big risk
Wasps have no idea how to run a football club it is a different dynamic, skillset etc
Wasps owning CCFC doesn't guarantee success and if CCFC continues to decline then that puts the whole group at risk because of the drain on cash flow
A successful CCFC would add to the sponsorship but even if in lower Championship I doubt it would be much or enough to cover the extra millions required each year to compete at that level
If we can all see that CCFC is a basket case then the financially sharp characters at Wasps will see it too. It seems to me they are prepared to take calculated risks not hopeful ones
As has been mentioned before and by others the most likely scenario is the club is purchased by an entirely separate party that has or is prepared to forge good relationships with Wasps, and takes on a long term sub lease
Exactly the sameGoing back to the OP, I support the club now despite the owners so it would be hypocritical of me not to support them under new ownership
They play permanently in Coventry now, get over it.
Quite an interesting read is this thread. Aside from the usual childish stuff some decent posts.
I wonder though, there are people on this thread saying they would not go if a hedge fund owned us who were prepared to move us anywhere at the drop of a hat. Does any of the posters who have said that go at present?
Also, there are some saying that they would not join in certain protests because it would hurt the team and they will continue to go to games, yet here they are saying they would not go to games which in turn would hurt the team. Just a bit confusing.
Going back to the OP, I support the club now despite the owners so it would be hypocritical of me not to support them under new ownership
why, they shouldn't be here, they've taken their club from it's home, and landed on the doorstep of an already established rugby club, it's unacceptable.
They had been tenants at Adams Park, High Wycombe since 2002 a ground with a capacity that didn't match their ambitions.
Now they have a home in Coventry whether you like it or not, it ain't gonna change.
What a load of obtuse nonsense.
They had been tenants at Adams Park, High Wycombe since 2002 a ground with a capacity that didn't match their ambitions.
Now they have a home in Coventry whether you like it or not, it ain't gonna change.
you're almost certainly right that it's not going to change, but that doesn't mean people have to accept it.
They only have a home here as wankers like you roll out the red carpet, bend over and invite them in.
They only have a home here as wankers like you roll out the red carpet, bend over and invite them in.
Bore off will you? Go and hang around with your new wasps buddies.
Or to move it to the next level, is there a potential new investor waiting in the wings prepared to take on ownership of Wasps and CCFC combined?
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