covcity4life
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how many pts adrift were we when mowbray was here , when venus was here and when slade is currently?
As for the Slade/Mowbray blame thing, who is more at fault, the guy who took over with us in the bottom four, or the guy that took us there?
Yep, by all means blame Sisu for this, that and the other, but that squad out there this season is not League One standard.
Didn't agree with Venus on many things, but he was right in this one. These players are not good enough for League One.
Slade addressed the back line and also brought Beavon in, but it's all kind of feeling a bit to late to save us.
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And didn't Mowbray take over in the first place with the team in the bottom four and in very real danger of relegation? 2 years on we've come full circle, what's the constant?As for the Slade/Mowbray blame thing, who is more at fault, the guy who took over with us in the bottom four, or the guy that took us there?
Yep, by all means blame Sisu for this, that and the other, but that squad out there this season is not League One standard.
Didn't agree with Venus on many things, but he was right in this one. This squad is not good enough for League One.
Slade addressed the back line and also brought Beavon in, but it's all kind of feeling a bit to late to save us.
3 of his worst decisions in the summer was letting Martin and Phillips go, and selling Vincelot. Not saying Phillips and Martin were world beaters and yes, Martins been injured but he put himself in a position where he basically had to replace 2 more players then he needed to, and that led to sellint Vincelot in order to bring in martins replacement who is worse than martin.We've had 16 new players through the door this season, thats a lot and whilist i expect many here to say thats what its like in Div 1 for all club, can't help but think overhauling a squad every season risks poor recruitment once in a while Jan 2016 and Summer 2016 were both poor. Vincelot to fund Turnbull - still makes no sense, surely some of the Maddison fee could have been used and we could have kept on to a first team regular. Was Turnbull like jody jones seen as an investment for the future thinking about potential fee in a few years rather than impact on the team now. After Saturday's performance I don't think Turnbull will ever generate a fee - very poor and slow.
3 of his worst decisions in the summer was letting Martin and Phillips go, and selling Vincelot. Not saying Phillips and Martin were world beaters and yes, Martins been injured but he put himself in a position where he basically had to replace 2 more players then he needed to, and that led to sellint Vincelot in order to bring in martins replacement who is worse than martin.
I don't think mowbray is our worst manager, but I can't see how anyone can argue that he has contributed to us being where we are now. His record in 2016 was awful something like a 20% win ratio in the league.
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What about Wilson he was chasing, the Championship player?
Mowbray was trying to attain the unattainable.
I thought that as I backed my van into itWhat a stupid post
The list of managers who got better than 8th must be huge...
Yet none of them got a thread calling them worst of all time lolAgreed. Shows how much shite we've employed over the years.
None of them though took the club from top of the league to bottom four though did they.Yet none of them got a thread calling them worst of all time lol
Could be. Could be Venus more so than Mowbray.Coleman had not got a clue and same for Thorn. Mowbray I feel trusted MV to his determent.
None of them though took the club from top of the league to bottom four though did they.
They would have had to take us to the top of the league at some point to achieve that.None of them though took the club from top of the league to bottom four though did they.
Yet none of them got a thread calling them worst of all time lol
They would have had to take us to the top of the league at some point to achieve that.
Yep. All I am saying is that statistically if we go down he is going to look like a very bad manager.Neither has TM. The thread asked if he was one of our worst managers. Pick your words wisely ;-)
Back on topic, as others have pointed out, we always seem to employ shite managers. Whilst all other clubs employ decent managers with the odd bad egg, we employ shite managers and the odd good egg.
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Don't think anyone has said the worst manager have they?It depends how you define worst manager. Otis quoted a statistic earlier about biggest drop in league position, so statistically he might be.
Others have quoted the appalling summer (and to an extent January) recruitment, which I think we can all admit was appalling and cannot be passed off as SISU's fault (we might not all agree on the latter....).
But equally, how many other managers have recruited awfully? How many other managers have overseen an awful run of form? How many other managers have seemingly lost the plot tactically? Lots.
Of those, there's very few who gave us the highs TM did, or recruited the players he did. It was the most exciting 6 months of my Coventry supporting life; we all had hope for the first time in a long time.
Yes he ultimately failed, and it ended in a low, but the only reason we see it that way, is because he actually gave us a high.
He's not my favourite manager, and he certainly had to go following his awful recruitment and bizzare tactics, but to suggest he is the worst manager in our history is nonsense.
Don't think anyone has said the worst manager have they?
And why Seppala is a Christian.Without re-reading the entire thread, based on some of the extremists on this site, I'm sure someone has. Probably followed by another stating he was the best.
And then at some point arriving at the usual SISU/Wasps/Council debate.
Yep. All I am saying is that statistically if we go down he is going to look like a very bad manager.
Last season we should have been playoffs minimum. Then this season we totally underperformed.
I know CC4L thinks he would have turned it round, but he recruited the wrong players and gave us a really poor squad.
No evidence to say he would have turned it round. The players clearly have shown they are not good enough and we still need strengthening.
The list of managers who got better than 8th must be huge...
CC4L, I've never put another poster on ignore, and I've encountered some right fuck wits on here. And I actually quite like you, but if you post one more thing about Mowbray you're going on ignore! You're driving me fucking mad!! Let it go FFS!!If we go down its gonna be nore venus and slades fault. Stipnscting like mowbray is still in charge.
We were 1 win from getting out of nottom 4 wheb TM was here. Now we are 7 pts off? Thats on venus and slade.
CC4L, I've never put another poster on ignore, and I've encountered some right fuck wits on here. And I actually quite like you, but if you post one more thing about Mowbray you're going on ignore! You're driving me fucking mad!! Let it go FFS!!
I mean a threesome is good, but when you started out with 37 virgins gushing for you at the same time, the final outcome is quite dissapointing in the grand scheme of things.
but it broke the never ending monotony of nothingness both before and after it.Whats the point in taking a team top if you aren't going to finish anywhere near it? Do we win any trophys for being top in November?
So markijg him down for being better than rest of our managers. Hmmm
Also left in october. He will not be reason we go down.
Back on thread, we all know that the recruitment in the summer went badly wrong, and we've been left with a young squad that's been bullied in many games this season. I was also worried by Mowbray's demeanour during matches. At the Fleetwood away game this season, we were struggling in the second half as Fleetwood got amongst us. Rosler spent the whole match on the touch line encouraging, cajoling and instructing his players, Mowbray sat on the bench with his hands in his pockets - he looked like he either didn't know what to do, or he'd given up. I felt our young team badly needed someone on the touchline batting for them, but there was nothing. On the plus side, we had a great season up to December, he tried to play a passing game, and he walked away without a pay off. But what happened from December onwards was abject failure and that's how most fans will remember his time with us.
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