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if we survive should we keep thorn??? (1 Viewer)

  • Thread starter ccfc2011
  • Start date Apr 1, 2012
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if we survive should we keep thorn???

  • yes

    Votes: 106 86.2%
  • no

    Votes: 17 13.8%

  • Total voters
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BackRoomRummermill

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 2, 2012
  • #36
No way , sorry not good enough for me.

I think the players deserve a bit of credit for getting out of this mess for now ................ only time will tell and other results.

Sorry to rock the AT love in .
 

ExmouthNeil

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 2, 2012
  • #37
So.....


Anyone who says NO, who do you want(given the state we are in as a club)????????????????????????????


Its very easy to say he's not good enough for us but look at the LONG LONG list of failures we've had.............
 

speedie87

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 2, 2012
  • #38
Never thought I'd say this but yes!

Hopefully he would be the man to get norwood to sign. That lad has saved our season
 
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Macca

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 2, 2012
  • #39
Yes because if we stay up there would be a real feel good factor which we would be daft to break up
 

Watcher of the sky blues

New Member
  • Apr 3, 2012
  • #40
I think he should stay. His performance has improved lately for several of the reasons stated above.
I would like to say though he has not suffered any interference from above because the people 'above' seem to be vacant positions or just plain anonymous. Maybe SISU's lack of hands-on and communication have benefited the cause.
On a slightly different subject, SISU's lack of investment is not putting the club in the position of the likes of Portsmouth and Rangers - it could be that the whole club is settling down after the turbulence of early season.
(Just something to think about before you all have me crucified at the Posh game)
 
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dadgad

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2012
  • #41
Definitely YES.
If he went who would replace him?
The AT detractors haven't a clue.
 
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1940 oldfive

Guest
  • Apr 3, 2012
  • #42
from a longford lad living half a world away I could'nt agree more:claping hands:
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2012
  • #43
So the guy looks like guiding the club to almost exactly the same position as the previous couple of managers under SISU, but with far less money and less experienced players, yet some think we should get rid?

Unrealistic expectations is the bane of this club. Look at the players AB & CC had and didn't achieve more than just above relegation: King, Westwood, Dann, Fox, Henderson, etc. We're talking about a 20 yo kid from Man U playing at the highest level of his career as saving the season!

Would just like one of the Thorn haters to actually put forward a reasonable alternative who could do better with the resources available. There's a fair argument that Thorn is up there with Black in terms of quality produced with resources available, except he's done it over more than a season.
 
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Macca

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2012
  • #44
still can't see the need to label people as "haters" o.k perhaps a couple of dicks but most people come up with good arguments on both sides
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2012
  • #45
dadgad said:
Definitely YES.
If he went who would replace him?
The AT detractors haven't a clue.
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Oh yes they have. Oggy or anyone at our club already. Any experienced manager like AB.
 
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Macca

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2012
  • #46
Astute said:
Oh yes they have. Oggy or anyone at our club already. Any experienced manager like AB.
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Leaving the old stuff behind?
 

Moff

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2012
  • #47
dadgad said:
Definitely YES.
If he went who would replace him?
The AT detractors haven't a clue.
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For the record I am more for than against.. I just want the team to be the best they can and at present I think Thorn is doing a great job, and I am not embarrassed to admit my mind has changed on him.

I think if he keeps us up he deserves the chance to move th team forward having had this years traumatic experinces firmly behind him.
but

your attitude above stinks. Just beacuse others disagree doesnt mean they dont have a clue. My mind has changed on Thorn but given a bit of knowledge on budget I am sure I could have come up with many possible alternatives.

Just because people disagree doesnt mean they dont have a clue, thats what kids say, so why not try to deal with the fact others differ in opinion.:facepalm:
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2012
  • #48
Talking of which, I haven't seen them for a while. :wave: I'm sure they'll pop up after our next defeat. Which will be next season now, of course.

Macca said:
still can't see the need to label people as "haters" o.k perhaps a couple of dicks but most people come up with good arguments on both sides
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torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2012
  • #49
I think Thorn us doing a great job, but I've not been one asking for him to be replaced anyway. Strangely, I've not heard anyone round me where I sit in Block 28 asking for his head either. I can't see the point in putting someone like Oggy in charge.

Astute said:
Oh yes they have. Oggy or anyone at our club already. Any experienced manager like AB.
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ajsccfc

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2012
  • #50
Macca said:
still can't see the need to label people as "haters" o.k perhaps a couple of dicks but most people come up with good arguments on both sides
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I despise the whole 'haters' fad in general, it's a lazy term used by people who just don't want to acknowledge valid criticism.
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2012
  • #51
Agree with you there. It's the same on the other side of the coin too, what with the "Thorn Love In" comment and similar.

ajsccfc said:
I despise the whole 'haters' fad in general, it's a lazy term used by people who just don't want to acknowledge valid criticism.
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HighfieldRoad1899-2005

New Member
  • Apr 3, 2012
  • #52
If it was all about money and the "better" players that brings then Blackpool would never have been promoted to the premiership, we would never have won the FA Cup...... etc etc. There is more to it than who on paper has the more valuable squad and because it is more valuable the better squad. Clearly having all those players hasnt made the likes of NFFC more than relegation strugglers just like us.
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Completely agree with this as I was not saying that money and a more valuable squad = a better squad.
What I am saying is that Thorn has done something more valuable in keeping the squad united. Look at Swansea in the Premier League. On paper they have no stand out performers but they work hard at a certain style of football and are a much better side for it. Look at Newcastle a few seasons ago- excellent squad that should never have got relegated.
By comparing NFFC to us I was highlighting our lack of experience at this level, NOT the lack of value. I believe our players are technically as good as a lot of teams in this league... we just need to en-still a winning mentality back into CCFC and a knowledge of how to win games - something that has been lacking since we were relegated.
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2012
  • #53
I just think it is good to see 85% want to keep AT now. Fans wanting to get rid of him has reached 60% or more during the season.

I wonder how many managers we have had in recent years that would have had an 85% backing of the fans? How many clubs have a manager at the moment backed by so many of their fans?

Just shows how far we have come together. It has been a long, hard season. Hopefully it is the season that we learn from and push on up the table. I have been going to games for over 30 years now. I want to know what it is like to have a push for promotion. I want to know what it is like to be top of the league. The last time I clearly remember is when we were top of the Prem. The first ever team to be top of the prem as well. It has been a long time now.

I suppose I can dream. Is that why the supporters of absolute shite teams carry on going to games? Wouldn't know because we are only shite
 
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