what would you have done differently?
Here's mine:
1) accept ACL proposal for variable rent based on league status
2) secure King, Gunnarson and Westwood on longer contracts.
3) not sell Keogh or Bigi or Best or Juke or Tabb
4) kept faith with Chris Coleman with AT as chief scout / director of football - Ranson to be a non-football director
5) work closely and productively with council to buy half of Ricoh (at least)
6) not mortgaged Ryton
7) not sold future ST revenues years in advance
8) re-named various stands after club legends like Hill and George/John
9) communicated much better with fans, including having a Trust rep on the board
10) made sure that the Ricoh train station was finished by encouraging Network Rail and the council
11) put in place better bus service from city to Ricoh, as Reading have
12) do more work in schools to give tickets to kids, filling up the Arena more and planting the seed with future fans
All very well with the benefit of hindsight - but hard to argue against all these points!
oh and 13) not sign ROD on a 3-year £5k p/w deal!!!
How would you of financed all of this?
True SB Taylor but we all have dreams of how it could have been.
what would you have done differently?
Here's mine:
1) accept ACL proposal for variable rent based on league status
Depends on the arrangement. Given we were paying 6 times the average in the championship not too optimistic on that score.
2) secure King, Gunnarson and Westwood on longer contracts.
In La La land that would be nice but they all wanted to run the contracts down
3) not sell Keogh or Bigi or Best or Juke or Tabb
Well we either sold them or they would have gone for free
4) kept faith with Chris Coleman with AT as chief scout / director of football - Ranson to be a non-football director
Ludicrous. Coleman was a shambles of a manager and I wouldn't credit Thorn with sufficient intellect to direct traffic. "Debt free" Ranson of course whored SISU around until he found a willing partner.
5) work closely and productively with council to buy half of Ricoh (at least)
Would be nice
6) not mortgaged Ryton
CCFC (Holdings) own Ryton don't they
7) not sold future ST revenues years in advance
No opinion on this really
8) re-named various stands after club legends like Hill and George/John
Why not? We can name a toilet after Thorn as well - I'd use it
9) communicated much better with fans, including having a Trust rep on the board
Not sure what a Trust representative would do -- like the old Workers Co-operatives of the 70's - a waste of time
10) made sure that the Ricoh train station was finished by encouraging Network Rail and the council
Hardly a major issue
11) put in place better bus service from city to Ricoh, as Reading have
Would be nice
12) do more work in schools to give tickets to kids, filling up the Arena more and planting the seed with future fans
OK I suppose
All very well with the benefit of hindsight - but hard to argue against all these points!
Easy to argue against some of them
oh and 13) not sign ROD on a 3-year £5k p/w deal!!!
I would have proposed a target driven incentive agreement with the council.
They demanded certain criteria before they would ever consider selling their share or not vetoing the sake if the Higgs share.
I would have made an agreement with the council that as each of the criteria is achieved but by bit a percentage if ownership of ACL/Ricoh is bought at cost price.
Even more stupid than suggesting we bring back Coleman. Seriously not one private business would ever agree to this.
And the route they choose instead.........
Is irrelevant, fact is no company would allow a council to dictate terms - why the hell should they.
Out of interest other than being a football ground is the Ricoh Arena of any use to the City as an asset at all?
What a crazy idea.
Force the council to allow you to get ownership step by step just by making your own business a success ( which unless I am mistaken any private business would be trying to do anyway?)
what would you have done differently?
Here's mine:
1) accept ACL proposal for variable rent based on league status
2) secure King, Gunnarson and Westwood on longer contracts.
3) not sell Keogh or Bigi or Best or Juke or Tabb
4) kept faith with Chris Coleman with AT as chief scout / director of football - Ranson to be a non-football director
5) work closely and productively with council to buy half of Ricoh (at least)
6) not mortgaged Ryton
7) not sold future ST revenues years in advance
8) re-named various stands after club legends like Hill and George/John
9) communicated much better with fans, including having a Trust rep on the board
10) made sure that the Ricoh train station was finished by encouraging Network Rail and the council
11) put in place better bus service from city to Ricoh, as Reading have
12) do more work in schools to give tickets to kids, filling up the Arena more and planting the seed with future fans
All very well with the benefit of hindsight - but hard to argue against all these points!
oh and 13) not sign ROD on a 3-year £5k p/w deal!!!
King and gunnar went to bigger clubs hahaha! I nearly spat my toast out. What div posted that.......
what would you have done differently?
Here's mine:
1) accept ACL proposal for variable rent based on league status
2) secure King, Gunnarson and Westwood on longer contracts.
3) not sell Keogh or Bigi or Best or Juke or Tabb
4) kept faith with Chris Coleman with AT as chief scout / director of football - Ranson to be a non-football director
5) work closely and productively with council to buy half of Ricoh (at least)
6) not mortgaged Ryton
7) not sold future ST revenues years in advance
8) re-named various stands after club legends like Hill and George/John
9) communicated much better with fans, including having a Trust rep on the board
10) made sure that the Ricoh train station was finished by encouraging Network Rail and the council
11) put in place better bus service from city to Ricoh, as Reading have
12) do more work in schools to give tickets to kids, filling up the Arena more and planting the seed with future fans
All very well with the benefit of hindsight - but hard to argue against all these points!
oh and 13) not sign ROD on a 3-year £5k p/w deal!!!
Thanks for the replies (including some grudging "s'pose so" from Grumpy Grendel...
In terms of financing, if we had kept many of the players we released, we could well be challenging for the play-offs in the Champ, if not in the Premier by now - with a half share in the Ricoh, the commensurate drop in rent, and with crowds of 25k per home game that success brings, finance would not be much of an issue for these fairly modest proposals.
My source for ROD's wages is Mr Steve Waggott - have got an even funnier story from him about "Goals" O'Donovan...aka "the best player in the Championship" by his own admission!
Yes, SISU did mortgage Ryton to raise funds, though I understand that the mortgage has now been closed it are back under full CCFC ownership. The sales of future ST revenue is true - Igwe defended this as "standard business practice" (only if you are Glasgow Rangers of Fiorentina circa 2000!)
Above all, this was not meant to be a SISU-bashing thread as such, just looking at where things could have been different.
11) put in place better bus service from city to Ricoh, as Reading have
Reading have put a bus service in place to The Ricoh, what a great club, thanks Reading:claping hands:
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