If you won the double...... (1 Viewer)

Ratty · Feb 14, 2015

Congratulations you're a double winner.

1.You have won the euro lottery
2.Your friends at Sisu have given you the club for free :claping hands:

a)How much of your £20 million win would you really be prepared to spend on rebuilding CCFC?
b)Assuming its not £0 would you allow the current manager to spend it for you?

two points to this: once upon a time my first answer would have been all of it, but apart from being disillusioned, I'm probably a little more careful with my retirement planning now
second point is that many fans don't consider Pressley has been backed sufficiently, but would you give him YOUR money.

My answers probably £10 million and no

What do you think....:jerkit:

Otis · Feb 14, 2015

I think 10 mill sounds about right for me too.

No, I don't think I would give it to Pressley.

I totally backed him previously, but did say I would give him to Christmas to get me believing in his vision, but at times I think he is losing the plot with his decision making and comments and team selection, so no I don't think I would be prepared to give any money to SP and would be looking to bring my own man in.

rupert_bear · Feb 14, 2015

Half if Waggott replaced Pressley and his assistants with a proper manager, nothing if he remained, I would also sort his payoff out too if it helped.

italiahorse · Feb 14, 2015

I'd emigrate.
But I would invest in the team and take out a subscription to Sky Blue Player.

Godiva · Feb 14, 2015

I think those who say they would 'give' half of their fortune to a football club would quickly reconsider if they actually won the Euro Millions.

mrtrench · Feb 14, 2015

Yes, I'd have to win more than £20mm before I considered spending it on football. Family and friends come first.

Houchens Head · Feb 14, 2015

I wouldn't give any of my fortune to the club! It's mine I tells ya! All mine!!!! Mwaaahhhaaaaa!

malkitccfc · Feb 14, 2015

£20m isn't enough for me to forget the shit CCFC have put me through in past years. Need to win more before they see a penny!

Evo1883 · Feb 14, 2015

I wouldnt put money actually into the club ,but id get together a supporters group (not the trust) and buy as big a percentage of the club possible for 5 million ,so that supporters would forever have a say in how their club is ran

Jack Griffin · Feb 14, 2015

Ratty said:
Congratulations you're a double winner.

What do you think....:jerkit:

I just checked and you are a f***ing liar, I won diddly squat.

Skyblueweeman · Feb 14, 2015

I'd offer £10m to Wasps for the Ricoh and hope that they sell...they make a tidy profit. I make sure it was renamed after me to thank me for doing so! The SBWM Arena...I like it. I'd then sell the club to someone for say, £12m ensuring we all have a say on saying yes to potential suitors...a kind of SBT fit and proper persons test (can't be any worse than the leagues). I'd move CCFC back to the original home dressing room and Wasps to the new one, increase their rent, decrease/remove their branding, increase CCFC branding, take charge of marketing myself and ensure there was fan representation on the new board whom I sell to. #operationweeman

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Noggin · Feb 14, 2015

This game is to dangerous to play when your net worth is 20mill.

Assuming the club has been given without debts, I'd endeavor to fix the easy to fix problems while looking for someone else to take the club from me for free who I felt would have our best interests at heart.

I'd have needed to win 40mill before I'd want to spend a few mill on the club (which again would be a short term, fix problems, bring the hope back, become playoff contenders if we got promoted immediately sell to someone who I felt would make a go of it.

I'd have to have won 75mill before I'd be willing to really get involved and play the game seriously with a large investment. I would need to talk to Pressley and other people around the club before deciding if he should be manager or not. There would be alot of staff changing though, the club is being run on a shoestring and it's a false economy.

Hobo · Feb 14, 2015

2m would satisfy me....but 18m is not a lot to turn this mess around. But I would give it a go. Waggott would be gone. I would have a good look at how SP conducts training, see first hand what his relationship is with the players, find out what his ideas really are....then decide whether he stays, goes or has a redefined role.

i would try and re brand the club as a family club and encourage community involvement. Youth players would be encouraged and supported to develope experiences outside of football and plan for the future. An emphasis would be placed on positive and creative football. I would explore ways of fan involvement, I would like to see a supporters body have say a fixed 5 per cent share holding to encourage transparency at boardroom level. Fans represented by a board of ten, 5 posts open to annual election, 2 posts for 2 year election and 3 posts for 3 year election. Hopefully this would stir the pot but also provide some continuity.

Encourage scouting by selected ex players and fans.

i would want to explore coaching, fitness and psychological methods. Encourage players at all levels to pursue their interest in these fields.

A mission to develop every individual employee to develop the club.

dongonzalos · Feb 14, 2015

Ratty said:
Congratulations you're a double winner.

1.You have won the euro lottery
2.Your friends at Sisu have given you the club for free :claping hands:

a)How much of your £20 million win would you really be prepared to spend on rebuilding CCFC?
b)Assuming its not £0 would you allow the current manager to spend it for you?

two points to this: once upon a time my first answer would have been all of it, but apart from being disillusioned, I'm probably a little more careful with my retirement planning now
second point is that many fans don't consider Pressley has been backed sufficiently, but would you give him YOUR money.

My answers probably £10 million and no

What do you think....:jerkit:

Easy spend 20 million purely on the squad walk this league
Crowds shoot up.
Start negotiating a deal with wasps who will desperate to keep us due to the 15k crowds turning up each week.
Get in the play off positions at some point in the championship.
Sell the whole premiership dream to someone for 60 million.

If they go up and don't spend a penny they turn their 60 million into 100 million just by getting relegated.

Much better idea than spending 20-40 million in a new stadium whilst getting relegated to division 4

chiefdave · Feb 14, 2015

£20m wouldn't be enough! The first problem you've got is we haven't got our own ground and therefore lack revenues to be competitive at anything above L1 level.

So what would you do with the money. We should, with minimal investment, be able to get out of L1. The standard in this division is terrible and even with our crowds as low as they are we still have some of the biggest in the league, a genuine promotion push and I'm sure there would be an upturn. Not suddenly 15K there every game but you'd start to see a turnaround.

Once you get to the championship what then? We'd have, judging by figures from the last time we were in that division, one of the lowest revenues in the division. We'd also be competing with teams who's owners were prepared to put millions in hoping to get to the promised land of the PL.

It's all very depressing but unless there's a major shakeup in terms of revenue sharing and a tightening and strict enforcement of FFP I think you're increasingly going to see the PL be the same teams with those being promoted and relegated each year being from a small group of teams.

It does make you wonder what success is for CCFC, or more depressingly what is the point of fighting to keep going. As good as being a mid to lower championship side sounds now we all know after a few seasons we wouldn't be content with that. Even if by some miracle we did get in the PL how much fun would relegation battles and trying to keep the big sides down to 5 or 6 - 0 defeats? Strip out the TV money and is the PL all that? Would the Ricoh be full when the likes of Burnley and Hull turn up? Look at all the empty seats last weekend at Villa Park and that was against Chelsea!

The Gentleman · Feb 14, 2015

I love reading posts on this type of question, cracks me up.

Sorry to piss on everyone's chips but Camelot saying it could be you is like Fisher saying we're building a new stadium..........

Hobo · Feb 14, 2015

The Gentleman said:
I love reading posts on this type of question, cracks me up.

Sorry to piss on everyone's chips but Camelot saying it could be you is like Fisher saying we're building a new stadium..........

it is another way of taxing the poor though.

Noggin · Feb 15, 2015

The Gentleman said:
I love reading posts on this type of question, cracks me up.

Sorry to piss on everyone's chips but Camelot saying it could be you is like Fisher saying we're building a new stadium..........

Human beings are dreamers, while you are quite correct that the lottery is horrible EV and the chance of winning it is not far off nil, a couple of quid a week is worth it if it provides you with hope and something fun to dream about, if you enjoy your time more sat on the toilet, in the shower, on a bus/train/stuck in a traffic jam because you can fantasise about what you will do if you get lucky then it's a couple of quid well spent. It's actually providing much more value, pleasure and reason to keep on keeping on with a smile on your face than one more starbucks latte or something. I think it's wrong to think that everyone playing the lottery is stupid, you can fully understand the odds and think it's a couple of quid well spent.

I think thats the worst thing sisu have done to us and the club, it's not moving us to northampton, selling all the best players, lying to us, putting us in administration it's that they have taken away the hope of the majority of us. The only ones left with it are the most willing to set aside reality and keep dreaming and to be honest I envy them a little despite how deluded I think they are.

Noggin · Feb 15, 2015

Hobo said:
it is another way of taxing the poor though.

It's alot better than most of the other poor taxes, tobacco, alcohol and other forms of gambling. The lottery is pretty cheap, provides for good causes (admittedly not the best causes) and provides hope to get through the week. I have much bigger problem with lottery scratch cards when it comes to this issue because people can and do throw away significant amounts of money that they desperately need chasing a dream and then chasing their losses with scratch cards.

While you might feel obliged to keep playing the lottery if you use the same numbers each week it's a small cost compared to how easily people can get into the habit of dropping £10-20+ each time they pop to the newsagents for a packet of fags. It is sad to me that poorer people can easily fall into this trap and end up having to take payday loans and pay their gas/electric on prepayment meters and thus end up in all sorts of unnecessary trouble. It sucks that poorer people end up paying more for all sorts of things, credit, any items they pay monthly for because they can't pay outright, gas/electric etc.

mrtrench · Feb 15, 2015

The Gentleman said:
I love reading posts on this type of question, cracks me up.

Sorry to piss on everyone's chips but Camelot saying it could be you is like Fisher saying we're building a new stadium..........

The probability of matching all seven numbers is

0.00000086 %

(excuse format, copied from Excel)

If we assume there are 10k supporters who might invest some of their £46mm overage winnings in CCFC & each one buys 10 tickets, the probability of one of those winning in any one week is 0.09%. If they did that every week for a year, the probability of a win in that year is 4.5% - so no very ridiculous.

What is unlikely, is that one of those 10k supporters would invest if they actually did win.

mrtrench · Feb 15, 2015

Hobo said:
it is another way of taxing the poor though.

More like a tax on the stupid. The expected return on the jackpot alone (assuming £46mm jackpot) is 39p for every £2 ticket. I cannot be arsed to work out all the smaller prizes and add them up - but at best I assumed they sum to £1 expected return. What that means is that it is effectively a tax at 50% on every ticket - although as another poster says, that tax is invested in good causes - so more like a charity contribution.

Noggin · Feb 15, 2015

mrtrench said:
More like a tax on the stupid. The expected return on the jackpot alone (assuming £46mm jackpot) is 39p for every £2 ticket. I cannot be arsed to work out all the smaller prizes and add them up - but at best I assumed they sum to £1 expected return. What that means is that it is effectively a tax at 50% on every ticket - although as another poster says, that tax is invested in good causes - so more like a charity contribution.

It's 50% prize fund, 28% good causes, 12% tax to uk government, 5% to ticket sellers and 5% to camelot (of which 4.5% is for operating costs and 0.5% profit)

but again there is nothing stupid about spending a couple of quid a week on a little fantasy as long as you know what you are doing, after all we all spend a hell of alot of money on short term pleasures.

It's massively better than the Coventry City matchday draw where the prizepool money for players is 9% which I was pretty roundly criticised for trying to point out to people who don't understand lottery odds. The club don't care about their fans enough to run a 50/50 draw like most teams so instead farm it out to a private company meaning the prize pool percentage is horrible.

While it's true that many people playing the lottery arn't properly informed thats the case with the majority of people with the majority of things. The general public waste an absolute fortune due to lazyness and ignorance of everyday life.

There is nothing wrong with gambling for fun either as long as you know the odds likely arn't in your favour. Most people gambling though don't realise that gambling isn't about picking who you think it's going to win, it's about picking the best value bets. Most people gamble like this, oh I think Coventry city are going to win this weekend, so I'll go to the bookie and place a bet that's not the correct way to bet. The correct way is to look at the odds and say I think Coventry City are more likely to win than the bookie odds of 2to1 so I'll place a bet.

dongonzalos · Feb 15, 2015

I can't imagine Bournemouth have spent more than 20 million

Astute · Feb 15, 2015

dongonzalos said:
I can't imagine Bournemouth have spent more than 20 million

But they found a Wilson and a club stupid enough to let him go so cheap.

Houchens Head · Feb 15, 2015

I had 5 and the bonus number a few weeks ago!
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Yep. Just the number 5 and the bonus number

wingy · Feb 15, 2015

Houchens Head said:
I had 5 and the bonus number a few weeks ago!
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Yep. Just the number 5 and the bonus number

You bad
I nearly bought that!!

Deleted member 5849 · Feb 15, 2015

I'd stick £5mil on a 50/1 outsider at the Grand National.

I'd have more fun spunking my cash away that way, and if I won I'd actually have the cash to maybe turn the club around.

Noggin · Feb 15, 2015

Deleted member 5849 said:
I'd stick £5mil on a 50/1 outsider at the Grand National.

I'd have more fun spunking my cash away that way, and if I won I'd actually have the cash to maybe turn the club around.

don't think you'd find a bookie to take that bet, if you won it's 5 years of profit for a company like ladbrooks and I don't see how they could lay that off.

I'm sure it would be easy to find a nice casino in Vegas though that would let you stick it on one roll of roulette, they'd probably pay for your room, food, drink and shows up to about £50-75 grand too if you are spinning on a double zero table, about 5 times less freebies on a single zero table.

letsallsingtogether · Feb 15, 2015

Deleted member 5849 said:
I'd stick £5mil on a 50/1 outsider at the Grand National.

I'd have more fun spunking my cash away that way, and if I won I'd actually have the cash to maybe turn the club around.

Or you could get 50-1 for City to score first and win the game.

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