Top hindsight thread m8
Christ almighty. Will you cut out this whole "m8" crap. It was unfunny and old ten years ago on GMK, you gargantuan repetitive bore.
Cue another hilarious m8 line.
very little. He continues to prefer to play one up front. First sub wasn’t until an hour, Shipley came on, hiwula on the wing, mason played instead of brown etc etc
Yeah, I said that too and I think Grendel called me delusional.I've always maintained throughout the season that I didn't think we were that far away from being a decent side, at the minute we're proving that.
Missing chances, is still our Achilles heel, but atleast we are creating them, should have had game well wrapped up yesterday before their late goal. Had Thomas alone put half of his good chances away we’d be a good ten points better off.Yeah, I said that too and I think Grendel called me delusional.
We just weren't putting the chances away before.
See, I really don't expect us to push on as I think we've overachievef, players are out of contract, or only on loan.Turns out to be Another knee jerk thread , robins has done a great job at city full stop .
I don’t expect us to make the playoffs because our run in is pretty damn hard , but I think next season we will push on
See, I really don't expect us to push on as I think we've overachievef, players are out of contract, or only on loan.
I still wouldn't sack the manager if we did worse, mind!
Yeah, I said that too and I think Grendel called me delusional.
We just weren't putting the chances away before.
We’ve got 2-3 players out of contract. I think Robins will convince Willis to stay. As for Burge, I wouldn’t be upset if he chose to part ways. Bright is also out of contract, I’m hoping we can snap him up when he becomes available. Signing Willis and Bright would be a statement of intent that we’re aiming for L1 promotion.
I like Sterling and Thomas a lot, but there may be free agents coming up this summer that will soften their departures. Ideally, a winger who is more clinical than Thomas would be great.
Goijg agsin next season in league 1 always has to be plan b
If we got promoted this year it could be pivotal for this club
Yup higher quality perms and loansIt would be a fight for survival but at least some decent football on offer
Wolves have another year option on Bright. I doubt they’ll be letting him go.
Still no credit for Robin’s then. You felt we were lucky to be promoted last season? In a harder league we are 25 places higher than we were last season. We are winning games with Shipley (central midfielder) playing on the wing and Hiwula (striker) also playing on the wing. However, Robins has simply become successful because he is playing players in their correct positions. He needs to be given time to succeed. The next time we lose a game it would be nice if we didn’t get the usual negative reaction. Look at the comments on Robins and certain players after the Burton game.Let’s be honest if you pick players in the correct position you’re half way there in this league
I also don’t understand the ”Craplin” tag you continue to give one of our players, this season’s “Mc Numpty”?Whatever people think of him as a player, most who are fair minded would agree that he always gives 100%. He is a 21 year old living away from home for the first time but is apparently fair game to be written off and treated with contempt. It hasn’t come off in the way everyone would have hoped, but I think he has shown glimpses of the player he could be next season. Robins stuck with Biamou and McNulty when there was a clamour from some to bin them both. It is a good job he has the patience and the courage to back his judgements.It wasn’t just that Otis. It was stubbornly persisting with the same selections and refusing to give others a chance up front, bizarre substitutions (take Shrewsbury away as an example) and a common theme of folding after half time.
We had a patch of winning 3 in a row around Christmas when he decided to change things up. Then he reverted to type and we dropped a lot of points against the worst sides in the league. Then Burge and Craplin get injured and the forced changes get us taking chances without insanity in goal
Still no credit for Robin’s then. You felt we were lucky to be promoted last season? In a harder league we are 25 places higher than we were last season. We are winning games with Shipley (central midfielder) playing on the wing and Hiwula (striker) also playing on the wing. However, Robins has simply become successful because he is playing players in their correct positions. He needs to be given time to succeed. The next time we lose a game it would be nice if we didn’t get the usual negative reaction. Look at the comments on Robins and certain players after the Burton game.
I also don’t understand the ”Chaplin” tag you continue to give one of our players, this season’s “Mc Numpty”?Whatever people think of him as a player, most who are fair minded would agree that he always gives 100%. He is a 21 year old living away from home for the first time but is apparently fair game to be written off and treated with contempt. It hasn’t come off in the way everyone would have hoped, but I think he has shown glimpses of the player he could be next season. Robins stuck with Biamou and McNulty when there was a clamour from some to bin them both. It is a good job he has the patience and the courage to back his judgements.
His management across the sequence of the season got us promoted. I would think that that is the sequence that counted. Last season, as with this season, I felt in many games we were by far the better team (Cambridge away for example) where the results simply did not match the performances. We lost Andreu and Jones through injury, arguably our two most influential players and Nazon in January. Despite all of this, he managed to get us up. His starting position was also the team that were so abject the season before. His acquisition of McNulty on a free, got us a 28 goal forward and also his fee seems to have funded this season’s incoming players who have produced another play off chasing season.This is a God awful league Irish, the one below was even worse and we snuck home after the shackles were let off in the final run-in. Are there many teams here with master tacticians at the helm or high quality players? No, there are teams better or worse organised and the best teams have strikers who know where the net is. Criticism came for his management across sequences of games where his stubbornness continued to cost us. It isn't simply 'we lost, Robins out'
I’ve watched Swindon a few times this season including watching us play Luton on the Sunday having watched them play Grimsby on the Saturday. This league is miles better than the fourth division in my opinion. The players are far more comfortable on the ball with much more emphasis on keeping possession. We have made the step up and but for the profligacy up front we should be at least be comfortably in the play offs. Only Luton at home have outplayed us I think.This is a God awful league Irish, the one below was even worse and we snuck home after the shackles were let off in the final run-in. Are there many teams here with master tacticians at the helm or high quality players? No, there are teams better or worse organised and the best teams have strikers who know where the net is. Criticism came for his management across sequences of games where his stubbornness continued to cost us. It isn't simply 'we lost, Robins out'
Luke Thomas, who I have really enjoyed watching this season and who I think has the chances to be a top player, has missed far more. Do we call him names too? Granted the overall contribution of Thomas has been more than that of Chaplin but Chaplin has still contributed to the team. He has scored poacher’s goals (Peterborough and Wycombe at home), he has scored two great free kicks (Bradford and Plymouth away). His two disallowed goals just after he signed show that he can also score outside of the box. He has missed some great chances, so did McNulty so does every striker. He hasn’t hit the ground running in the way everyone hoped but does he deserve the contempt he gets from some? If he hid, shirked responsibility and strolled through games fair enough. He doesn’t do that. The negativity on here towards our own players is unbelievable sometimes. According to one poster (not you) after the Burton game the players were cowards and Robins was an incompetent.What else do you call a player whose misses routinely defy belief for a professional. He's paid bloody good money to miss from 6 yards every week
Luke Thomas, who I have really enjoyed watching this season and who I think has the chances to be a top player, has missed far more. Do we call him names too? Granted the overall contribution of Thomas has been more than that of Chaplin but Chaplin has still contributed to the team. He has scored poacher’s goals (Peterborough and Wycombe at home), he has scored two great free kicks (Bradford and Plymouth away). His two disallowed goals just after he signed show that he can also score outside of the box. He has missed some great chances, so did McNulty so does every striker. He hasn’t hit the ground running in the way everyone hoped but does he deserve the contempt he gets from some? If he hid, shirked responsibility and strolled through games fair enough. He doesn’t do that. The negativity on here towards our own players is unbelievable sometimes. According to one poster (not you) after the Burton game the players were cowards and Robins was an incompetent.
It isn’t contempt, it’s legitimate criticism. The comments against him aren’t personal and when Robins screws up I don’t think it’s unfair to call it out. If I’m wrong City succeed and I ‘m quite happy having egg on my face. But he insisted on playing out of form strikers during a barren spell, made bizarre subs every week etc etc
Some praise him sticking with the same stuff week in week out, others see it as a predictable weakness. This is a poor league and there is little between most of the teams. Does it mean I want him to do badly of course not. But we should all want improvement even when results are good.
His management across the sequence of the season got us promoted. I would think that that is the sequence that counted. Last season, as with this season, I felt in many games we were by far the better team (Cambridge away for example) where the results simply did not match the performances. We lost Andreu and Jones through injury, arguably our two most influential players and Nazon in January. Despite all of this, he managed to get us up. His starting position was also the team that were so abject the season before. His acquisition of McNulty on a free, got us a 28 goal forward and also his fee seems to have funded this season’s incoming players who have produced another play off chasing season.
Robins became the first manager to give us a promotion in fifty years. The first one to give us a top 6 finish in 40 years. You can only compete in the league you are in, master tactician or not, in a league of poor teams or not, Robins achieved his objective. Over a 49 game season to say that this is down to luck is a little bit churlish.
Were you bouncing around with the rest of us in Nottingham and at Wembley last May? I bet you were! That we were able to forge memories that will last a lifetime is down to good management.
I largely agree with you apart from the bit in bold.
I think it was more BECAUSE rather than in spite of that that we improved and pushed on. Had Jones and Andreu not got injured I'm not sure MR would've altered the system/personnel which gave Bayliss his opportunity and helped McNulty show his goalscoring form alongside Max?
Similarly this season, although we're still nowhere near clinical up front, since Chaplin got injured he's effectively been left with just Baka and Hiwula as strikers and I think we've looked a bit more dangerous up front since that. Had Chaplin been available, do you think MR would've given those two (Baka esp) a run of games to prove themselves at Chaplin's expense? I doubt it.
Having said that I do think that it's now happened when Chaplin is fit MR will recognise he has to wait for his chance to dislodge one of them.
MR does seem to be 'lucky' in that respect - major injuries that would normally totally derail a team somehow led to us finding something that worked better, and I'll take a lucky manager any day of the week!
Not having a go, but genuine question. Do you not think he wants improvement ?.
I get it with slade etc, but surely robins deserves our support ?
His stubbornness has meant he persisted with hwuila on the wing, Shipley in the match day squad, not filling the team with journeymen footballers and promoting youth who will be here medium / long term or will make us a profit when out the door.
Long may this stubbornness continue as I for one am grateful to have him here
Some would still want him out.Fundamentally we're playing how we've tried to play all season. The Robins out gang are clueless
I completely get the “I think we might lose today but I hope I’m wrong” comments on a match day.
I dont get “we shouldn’t get rid of manager and player x etc, but i hope they improve and I hope I’m wrong”. That’s not support. It’s fine to have that opinion, but at least stick to it.
No it’s ‘I think he’s stubbornly sticking to something that isn’t working but hope I’m wrong’.
Look at our performances in both winless runs and it sticks out like a sore thumb
It’s a bit pedantic to go on about it I know, but labelling him “Craplin” does seem to be personal and to be holding him in contempt. No problem with legitimate criticism. To write him off at 21 after half a season seems harsh.It isn’t contempt, it’s legitimate criticism. The comments against him aren’t personal and when Robins screws up I don’t think it’s unfair to call it out. If I’m wrong City succeed and I ‘m quite happy having egg on my face. But he insisted on playing out of form strikers during a barren spell, made bizarre subs every week etc etc
Some praise him sticking with the same stuff week in week out, others see it as a predictable weakness. This is a poor league and there is little between most of the teams. Does it mean I want him to do badly of course not. But we should all want improvement even when results are good.
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