No one has said he isn’t.
If you play a 4-3-3 and one of those middle three is a CAM that isn’t expected to track back etc then the midfield will be over-run. If you play a 4-3-3 in this league the middle 3 need to work forward and back (types like Allen, Kelly, Westbrooke, Shipley). O’Hare might be able to play that role but it’s not a CAM which is apparently what he is.
But can he slide?Okay squire
He can easily play in a 3, when all fit it's Kelly holding, Allen for the legs and Bucky attacking more
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Strachan cost us that tieSheff Utd games have a habit of bugging me. The quarter final in 98 still rankles me.
Ahh, I did get there, but used an alternative route.
Captain America - Winter Solider - In winter sometimes planes are diverted from Chicago. Chicago's main airport is O'Hare. O'Hare - a man called Callum once caught a plane - Callum O'Hare.
Piece of piss.
Strachan cost us that tie
or promotion or slash playing budget.
This game was a nightmare, after the sending off that never was, we scored, ball well over the line, but the linesman missed it, we’d have been 1 up. We outplayed them for most of the match, their winner came from a corner, when the ball ricocheted onto Billy Sharpe’s back and into the net. One of the unluckiest games I’ve seen.That Sheffield Utd game still bugs me, we were on a long unbeaten run by that point and it wasn't long after that we had the vital Walsall and Burton home games where we only took a point and the wheels fell off the season.
Lived in Sheffield then, with a blades fan (who was a bit of a tit) and sat in the home end as couldn’t get tickets in away.Sheff Utd games have a habit of bugging me. The quarter final in 98 still rankles me.
They're just talking in the usual self regarding way Villa fans do. Anybody would think they're dominating Europe.
.Great post from one of their fans - ‘hope he’s had his jabs!’
He must have after all he will feel at home in Brum..Great post from one of their fans - ‘hope he’s had his jabs!’
Just nipped on their forum to see what they are saying and most seem to think that we are still in league two.
I think if anything sums up our 'rivalry' perfectly it's this. They literally don't care about us in the slightest. In fact, most my mates who are Villa fans actively want us to do well as more of a sympathy thing than anything else. Anyone the right side of 30 basically won't remember us playing them, but we still sing 'Shit on the Villa' every game.Just nipped on their forum to see what they are saying and most seem to think that we are still in league two.
No, just 94.Have you spoken to 100 of them?
I think if anything sums up our 'rivalry' perfectly it's this. They literally don't care about us in the slightest. In fact, most my mates who are Villa fans actively want us to do well as more of a sympathy thing than anything else. Anyone the right side of 30 basically won't remember us playing them, but we still sing 'Shit on the Villa' every game.
Spot on, I find it so embarrassing. Literally not a rivalry at all makes us looks tinpotI think if anything sums up our 'rivalry' perfectly it's this. They literally don't care about us in the slightest. In fact, most my mates who are Villa fans actively want us to do well as more of a sympathy thing than anything else. Anyone the right side of 30 basically won't remember us playing them, but we still sing 'Shit on the Villa' every game.
Not a rivalry atm but I remember them coming to highfield road when I was young and there is something that makes this the real local derby I want to play every week. Sh@t on the villa is still sung often and rightly so.Spot on, I find it so embarrassing. Literally not a rivalry at all makes us looks tinpot
We've not played them for years but there definitely was amnosity in the 90s, you weren't there if you think otherwiseSpot on, I find it so embarrassing. Literally not a rivalry at all makes us looks tinpot
I always remember it being good natured though. Maybe it wasn't and I just wasn't aware of it as a naive youth but I don't recall any real hatred.We've not played them for years but there definitely was amnosity in the 90s, you weren't there if you think otherwise
I mostly agree with Dreamer on this. The rivalry with Villa seemed a little contrived to me even in the 90s. Villa were focused on other teams in Birmingham etc. We needed to manufacture a rivalry - not saying though there wasn't an edge by the time we were relegated.
I also don't recall Sunderland being mentioned as a grudge team until very recent years - whipped up on the internet and resulting today in the Football Factory wannabes living out a few fantasies on match day.
So the question is - who is our biggest true rival?
In the early 80s I remember matches vs. Birmingham not being for the faint hearted - and for the record my involvement was limited to leaving matches early with my Dad to 'avoid the trouble.' At least that was the idea - unfortunately the hoolies had similar ideas so we naively got ourselves caught in the middle of violent fights and charging police horses. Much to my Dad's horror. I was young enough to find it pretty exciting - after all no one is really going to target a 10 year old.
Leicester I guess would be another candidate for local rivals. But I think they generally see Forest as their rival and not us.
When we drew Wolves in the League Cup in the mid 90s (we obviously lost) there was an old time hooligan a few seats down who kept pointing to their Kop end and boasting as to how he'd taken it.....so I'm sure there was some kind of rivalry there dating back to the 70s. But I don't think Wolves in any sense see us as a true rival.
I'm about to go into Grendel territory and say 'we're so shite we actually can't find anyone to take us seriously as a true rival.'
Maybe you were not in an environment like I was. Thrust into an apprenticeship in the Black Country...& it was always a question - "who do you support" & the answer from Vile fans always gained an arrogant scoff, ridicule or incredulous "really"?I mostly agree with Dreamer on this. The rivalry with Villa seemed a little contrived to me even in the 90s. Villa were focused on other teams in Birmingham etc. We needed to manufacture a rivalry - not saying though there wasn't an edge by the time we were relegated.
I also don't recall Sunderland being mentioned as a grudge team until very recent years - whipped up on the internet and resulting today in the Football Factory wannabes living out a few fantasies on match day.
So the question is - who is our biggest true rival?
In the early 80s I remember matches vs. Birmingham not being for the faint hearted - and for the record my involvement was limited to leaving matches early with my Dad to 'avoid the trouble.' At least that was the idea - unfortunately the hoolies had similar ideas so we naively got ourselves caught in the middle of violent fights and charging police horses. Much to my Dad's horror. I was young enough to find it pretty exciting - after all no one is really going to target a 10 year old.
Leicester I guess would be another candidate for local rivals. But I think they generally see Forest as their rival and not us.
When we drew Wolves in the League Cup in the mid 90s (we obviously lost) there was an old time hooligan a few seats down who kept pointing to their Kop end and boasting as to how he'd taken it.....so I'm sure there was some kind of rivalry there dating back to the 70s. But I don't think Wolves in any sense see us as a true rival.
I'm about to go into Grendel territory and say 'we're so shite we actually can't find anyone to take us seriously as a true rival.'
Leicester I guess would be another candidate for local rivals. But I think they generally see Forest as their rival and not us.
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Always used to be Leicester when I lived in Cov in the 70s. We'd sing:
' We hate <opposing team> and we hate <opposing team>...' (I remember the tune but don't know what it is. Ended with 'we are the <opp team> haters')
'and Leicester' was interjected on the second line.
Never recall anything about Villa. But they were in Division 2. Leicester were in Division 1.
Surely we’d only never beaten them at Villa Park?I remember the Villa rivalry being very real in the 90s. I think it was mostly form our side though, the thing that is forgotten here though is that we hated them because we had never beaten them in our history until...I want to say '98...when we beat them 1-0 in the cup and Moldovan got the only goal, we then beat them in the league a year or so later. Facts may be wrong but that was the gist....
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