Increasing the scope of var (1 Viewer)

[clint van damme]

Meeting about it today, talking of using it for free kicks, corners etc.
Bag of shite

 

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[Deleted member 5849]

Oh good, just what we need is more stoppages

 

[clint van damme]

Oh good, just what we need is more stoppages

Exactly.
Of course they might kick it into touch but no doubt it won't be the last time itson the agenda even if they do.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Who is behind these changes?

 

[wingy]

Just fook it off, looks like it's being readied for more sponsorship to me! And adverts.

 

[clint van damme]

Who is behind these changes?

Being discussed by IFAB, though there's a quote from an 'insider' in the article below and it doesn't sound like they're keen

VAR: No changes if they would cause more delays in matches, IFAB says

There has been a lot of resistance to its expansion with current decisions and delays irking many Premier League managers and fans.

www.google.com

 

[Ian1779]

They need to focus on getting the existing processes correct before any idea of expanding comes up. Time to mike up the VAR and the referee like they do in cricket and other sports.

 

[Nick]

They need to focus on getting the existing processes correct before any idea of expanding comes up. Time to mike up the VAR and the referee like they do in cricket and other sports.

Exactly, they still can't get the basics right without about 15 replays so imagine that happening for throw ins and corners.

 

[Ian1779]

Now this I can get behind.

 

[Nick]

Again, it would need to be consistent. It won't be.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Now this I can get behind.

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NO

 

[fernandopartridge]

VAR needs to be abandoned entirely, end of.

 

[David O'Day]

VAR isn't going anywhere, people need to face that fact. It's just a case of trying to make it as good as possible

It does work well sometimes, despite what Dyche may say the VAR worked well in the Everton vs. United game, the on field ref made an awful decision when he booked Martial for a dive when he was clearly fouled and VSR corrected him.

 

[Covkid1968#]

Just fook it off, looks like it's being readied for more sponsorship to me! And adverts.

American football here we come….really hope The Championship reject it if it proposed to extend down the divisions

 

[Travs]

VAR isn't going anywhere, people need to face that fact. It's just a case of trying to make it as good as possible

It does work well sometimes, despite what Dyche may say the VAR worked well in the Everton vs. United game, the on field ref made an awful decision when he booked Martial for a dive when he was clearly fouled and VSR corrected him.

Rule changes in football should be able to be implemented at any level, from Sunday leagues up to champions league.

Therefore, back pass rule change early 90's fine. Handball changes, (grudgingly) fair enough.

VAR can't even be implemented everywhere at a professional level, let alone anywhere else, so it should be gone.... as should offside rules which can't be figured out without the (dubious) use of VAR and six pairs of eyes.

*i fully realise VAR won't go anywhere, and will more likely become more widespread. Doesn't mean it isn't a sack of shit..... seems to be a defensive attitude amongst lots of football fans who won't accept criticism of the game.... see diving and gamesmanship being described as "the modern game" and "game management"

 

[wingy]

3minutes to come to a decision,players going to the side for a drink and tactical talk,fook of David, football is about the immediate nature of sport!

 

[clint van damme]

VAR isn't going anywhere, people need to face that fact. It's just a case of trying to make it as good as possible

Yeah, this genies not going back in the bottle unfortunately

 

[wingy]

2 codes then?

 

[Ian1779]

NO

Why not?

I am of the thinking that when players are deliberately bringing down opponents to stop a counter should be sin binned for example.

 

[wingy]

Don't need to tell you that?

 

[Tommo1993]

I think what might bug me the most about it is “VAR officials” checking over something that happened several minutes before while the game is being played.

Think Gary O’Neil needs to get over himself a little bit too.

 

[Nick]

Why not?

I am of the thinking that when players are deliberately bringing down opponents to stop a counter should be sin binned for example.

It would be a good start to consistently book them.

 

[David O'Day]

Rule changes in football should be able to be implemented at any level, from Sunday leagues up to champions league.

Therefore, back pass rule change early 90's fine. Handball changes, (grudgingly) fair enough.

VAR can't even be implemented everywhere at a professional level, let alone anywhere else, so it should be gone.... as should offside rules which can't be figured out without the (dubious) use of VAR and six pairs of eyes.

*i fully realise VAR won't go anywhere, and will more likely become more widespread. Doesn't mean it isn't a sack of shit..... seems to be a defensive attitude amongst lots of football fans who won't accept criticism of the game.... see diving and gamesmanship being described as "the modern game" and "game management"

it's nothing apart from being realistic, you can think whatever you like about VAR but all you can do try and improve as much as you can

 

[thekidfromstrettoncamp]

I think what might bug me the most about it is “VAR officials” checking over something that happened several minutes before while the game is being played.

Think Gary O’Neil needs to get over himself a little bit too.

IMO said before considering the wrong decisions that have gone against his team he has conducted himself very well.Not a Wolves fan but can't remember 1 wrong 1 going for them this season.
Agree with your 1st point.

 

[wingy]

it's nothing apart from being realistic, you can think whatever you like about VAR but all you can do try and improve as much as you can

Why is it better to support Var than do without?

 

[David O'Day]

Why is it better to support Var than do without?

because it is not going anywhere so it's unrealistic to think it is thus all you can do is try and improve it

understand?

 

[TomRad85]

Meeting about it today, talking of using it for free kicks, corners etc.
Bag of shite

Fucking hell it's bad enough as it is. Americanised crap. More stoppages so we can start played ads in game no doubt. It'll be unwatchable.

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[TomRad85]

Now this I can get behind.

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Also no. These dickheads need to leave the game alone. It's the most popular sport in the world so why so keen to mess with it so much recently I wonder?

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[Travs]

because it is not going anywhere so it's unrealistic to think it is thus all you can do is try and improve it

understand?

But this is a mere football forum so what's wrong with people bemoaning it.

Its shite, and has made the spectacle of football much worse, for very little benefit.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

VAR needs to be abandoned entirely, end of.

Backwards thinking. Other sports manage the implementation just fine.

 

[Wyken Sky Blue]

VAR should have a time limit of about 1 min (maybe even 30 seconds) to keep the game moving. If you can't find a clear and obvious error in that time then it's not clear and obvious

Some of these decisions that are taking 3-4 mins because of a toe nail are insane!

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[Brighton Sky Blue]

Needs to switch to a review type system I think. Put it in the hands of the manager or captain to appeal and if they’re wrong enough times they lose their reviews.

 

[duffer]

Why not?

I am of the thinking that when players are deliberately bringing down opponents to stop a counter should be sin binned for example.

I'm thinking if you make it a red card offence then it stops it happening entirely.

What difference does having a player off for ten minutes actually make?

The obvious thing that will happen is that the team that goes down to ten, will now start time wasting for the next ten minutes. This will not improve the game as a spectacle.

I've got a radical idea: The sport at all levels needs to get over the fact that refs aren't perfect, and just get on with the feckin game.

Mostly the better teams will still win, but sometimes you'll just have shit luck with a bad decision, a bit like shit luck with an unfortunate deflection. Sometimes, of course, it'll go your way.

We used to be able to cope with this before the ceaseless bleating by pundits using words like "disgraceful" to describe honest mistakes that could often only be spotted by endless slow motion replays.

 

[duffer]

Sorry @Ian1779 , not having a go at you personally mate, this VAR stuff obviously gets under my skin a bit, as does the endless focus on referees. I'm getting old and cranky, obviously.

 

[SBT]

Backwards thinking. Other sports manage the implementation just fine.

Other sports are generally pretty boring, especially compared to football.