I'd end up getting cramp in my footI was looking for tips on how to get to sleep when stressed and one thing I read was how the US military teaches soldiers to get to sleep in the battlefield. IIRC you start at your toes and basically tense every muscle in your body until you get to your finger tips and then go all the way back to your toes again then keep doing this until you go off. Never tried it but I guess if the US military is teaching soldiers to do this as a technique to get to sleep in a stressful situation there must be something in it.
I used to struggle to sleep as I had a TV in my room and removing it definitely improved my sleep. It's hard these days with all manner of devices craving attention and learning to resist the urge to look at them can take some doing.Thank you all. I always tend to fall asleep with the Tv On, saw it as a kind of comfort as my mum passed when i was young
But I'm going to try a podcast or something on Spotify instead, the noise will still be there i suppose
I'm am anxious guy in general, and my mind instantly goes to 'oh my god im never going to sleep again and im going to die'
I thought brown noise was sound that made you shit yourself?If that doesn't work, I would really recommend putting on some brown noise for the whole night. Since doing it, I am getting much better quality sleep.
Been to bed. Now up. 02:35 in the morning. Nothing unusual. Was a shift worker for decades. You get used to waking up and going to work. Stopped working nearly a year ago. Nothing changes. First noise and I'm awake.
The bonus is the wife gets up I go back to bed
Depends on if I get woken up. If I do I might as well get up. Last night the wife woke me up getting into bed. I'd had less than 2 hours. But yes 4 hours uninterrupted sleep is a good one.Whats a normal night for you then 3 - 4 hours?
I think that’s what put me off trying it.I'd end up getting cramp in my foot
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Can't believe so many of you have phones in the bedroom! I switch my phone off at 9pm & leave it off until 7.00am next working day.
Tried a wank at 3am this morning, didnt work
Every bloke went to the pub after work back then..........you didnt sleep better but you think you didI must say i find it mad that so many on here struggle with sleep also
I know some people need more and some need less, but does it point to a wider problem in society that todays stresses, shift patterns etc are affecting everyones sleep compared to say 30 years ago?
Every bloke went to the pub after work back then..........you didnt sleep better but you think you did
No TV in bedroom, all tech on silent/do not disturb other than an alarm, haven't worked out how to stop the wife snoring yet which is a pain when I wake for an old man pee around 3.30
Thanks for sharing, I’ve been using the Headspace one for a week and was looking for others.
Thanks for sharing, I’ve been using the Headspace one for a week and was looking for others.
I'm another of those who has no problem getting to sleep, but will wake between 4am - 4.30am pretty much every single morning & then just lie there stressing about all sorts of shit, whilst trying not to wake the Mrs.
Can't believe so many of you have phones in the bedroom! I switch my phone off at 9pm & leave it off until 7.00am next working day.
Thankfully I don’t suffer from insomnia but I haven’t slept properly for 4 years i.e. when my first child was born.
I do the night shifts, which could be once in the night for a few minutes, or multiple times and all for a long period. For example a few nights ago both kids woke up twice each and on separate occasions. One wake up was to change the sheets (we’re going through no nappies at bedtime stage atm) which is quite time consuming, especially at 2 in the morning when you’re shattered.
Partner sleeps through it all - kids could be screaming and she doesn’t wake! The deal is that she does the morning routine, so take them down for breakfast etc when they wake up properly. Issue is, it sometimes takes so long (she brushes her teeth, gets dressed etc) that I’ve woken up and then can’t drop back off. So double whammy of broken sleep and up early.
Lack of sleep is really shit. Definitely impacts your emotions too.
And as someone else mentioned earlier, I end up staying up once the kids and partner are asleep as that’s the only time I really get to myself to chill.
Hmm, something to look forward to...Yep everyone associates the newborn stage with no sleep but i feel it carries on for a good while until the potty training stage is complete
Yep everyone associates the newborn stage with no sleep but i feel it carries on for a good while until the potty training stage is complete
I can empathise, as for over 12 years, I’ve experienced varying degrees of insomnia.c**t isnt it?
No reason for it came on suddenly lastt Sunday eve, couldnt drift off.
Got 5 or 6 hours a night rest of last week, then fuck all on Friday night. Slept for 11 hours Saturday night, but again last night fuck all
Anyone ever suffered? Any remedies or tricks to help? Im an emotional mess, cried at my daughter going to school this morning ffs
I can empathise, as for over 12 years, I’ve experienced varying degrees of insomnia.
There can be many factors, as Sky Blue Pete alluded to, even down to the level of magnesium in your body, to the temperature of the room.
Have a think about any minor to moderate changes in your life recently IE increased stress, workload at your job, extra travelling, earlier starts in the morning (that can disrupt the body’s natural Circadian rhythms) or things like (not assuming here) increased alcohol intake, or dietary sensitivities.
Don’t suppose you do night shifts, at all?
As someone else suggested, I would give some sensory noise a shot: get some decent ear buds or headphones, and put some brown noise on YouTube. Or, failing that, an 8-9 hour rain sound video.
I can also recommend a product called Valerian, which Nytol is made from, however Nytol has a far lesser grade of Valerian extract in it. Go for the root extract, or something in a drop/tincture form.
Dr Vogel does one called Dormeasan, which is distilled from hops (non alcoholic incidentally).
I think it might be information overload, we've all got access to a wealth of it at our fingertipsI must say i find it mad that so many on here struggle with sleep also
I know some people need more and some need less, but does it point to a wider problem in society that todays stresses, shift patterns etc are affecting everyones sleep compared to say 30 years ago?
Drink sleep is impaired because your heart rate is usually up trying to process the alcoholFair point
Alcohol is a weird one, zonks you out but the sleep quality is apparently woeful
My partner snores like fuck its horrendous
Drink sleep is impaired because your heart rate is usually up trying to process the alcohol
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I think it might be information overload, we've all got access to a wealth of it at our fingertips
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Thanks for asking, they stem from (as I discovered last year) previously undiagnosed Inattentive ADHD. Mainly.I feel for you, what were your insomnia issues? Falling asleep? Waking in the night?
Strangely i don't have any worries cimpared to usual, im on the best wage ive ever been on, enjoy work, kids are safe and happy, relationship is great, it was just really strange that it just come out the blue. Then again, i suppose that happens for most who experience it!.
I dont work nights or shifts, never have, i WFH 8.30 - 4.30. Do exercise through the day i walk 3 miles or so, do some homebased stretches and excercises too. Eat healthy. Only really drink if we're out for a meal or its someones birthday etc
Looked at Valerian root but apparently isnt good for those with hear arrhythmia and unfortunately i have ectopic heartbeats so thats a no im afraid
How do you overcome your bouts?
Thanks for asking, they stem from (as I discovered last year) previously undiagnosed Inattentive ADHD. Mainly.
The hamster likes to keep running on the wheel, even though I’m on my arse, haha. I did have insomnia due to truly horrendous Restless Leg Syndrome for years, but stopping smoking ceased that. Since then, I believe working nights for a while really messed up my circadian rhythms, and I’ve never truly regained that quality of sleep: it’s usually a struggle to stay asleep for more than a few hours at a time, and then by about 5am I sometimes just give up, as I have to be up at 6:30 for the kids anyway.
Seems you’re doing everything right, in all fairness, mate. There’s nothing to pin it on, from a lifestyle or environmental perspective.
As for the Valerian, perhaps it’s good that I stopped taking it last year, as I too have an ectopic arrhythmia. Didn’t even realise that.
At the minute, I’m using sensory aids like rain sounds, temperature control, sometimes a cold-ish bath or shower (recommended) and a Polish supplemental liquid called Amol, which is quite high in ethanol content, but 6-10 drops of that in 100mls of water usually enables me to actually get off to sleep.
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