I think a lot of supporters made hasty decisions to renew when we returned to the Ricoh, I reckon we could be sub 6k easily next season for some games even in league 1 if Pressley is still in charge and SISU are still here.
How can you say NOPM is irrelevant? If the club is just ticking over as indicated in the op, then by not funding the process will eventually force an outcome. It will be either liquidate or sell, if theirs no fans players on a free wouldn't want to come. How long would they fund a team in an empty stadium. As the JR is in multiple name's this could continue with the club being sold on, the only reason they would continue to fund would be to continue to litigate and sink the club with the debt. Would forcing their hand to do this early be more appealing than the slow death were already suffering.
What a depressing read.
Yet people would still suggest to "get behind the team", "pack out The Ricoh"....
For what exactly? to watch the death of the club you love?
What a depressing read.
Yet people would still suggest to "get behind the team", "pack out The Ricoh"....
For what exactly? to watch the death of the club you love?
It cant die if people attend can it? We all know thats what you NOPM types really want though isnt it?
Of course it is. We're not true fans like you, forget about the thousands upon thousands of pounds we've all spent on ST's and travelling to away games all over the country. Only true fans will blindly follow a team deliberately taken from its home for a season, and kiss SISU's a**e in the process. Just my opinion of course. Obviously anyone that went to Sixfields had the right to do so, but it doesn't give t**ts like you the right to ridcule the rest of us.It cant die if people attend can it? We all know thats what you NOPM types really want though isnt it?
It cant die if people attend can it? We all know thats what you NOPM types really want though isnt it?
Of course it is. We're not true fans like you, forget about the thousands upon thousands of pounds we've all spent on ST's and travelling to away games all over the country. Only true fans will blindly follow a team deliberately taken from its home for a season, and kiss SISU's a**e in the process. Just my opinion of course. Obviously anyone that went to Sixfields had the right to do so, but it doesn't give t**ts like you the right to ridcule the rest of us.
We all know that any extra revenue generated by bigger attendances will be syphoned off into SISU coffers. This will probably encourage them to hang around longer. When they came attendances had dropped off, but they were still at the 17/18k level, with the odd game at 20+. What did they do with the money then!!
You've got to be realistic about that, all that money wouldn't have been enough to cover wages and running costs. SISU have run the club into the ground, but they (or rather their investors) are the ones funding the losses, not a couple of hundred pounds each a year from supporters.
You've got to be realistic about that, all that money wouldn't have been enough to cover wages and running costs. SISU have run the club into the ground, but they (or rather their investors) are the ones funding the losses, not a couple of hundred pounds each a year from supporters.
They didn't do their due diligence properly then!
No not at all apart from the £2.6m management charges and the extortionate debt interest !
A big difference between 22k and 2.k(At Sixfields) eh? NW. I wonder whose fault that was?
Well it more and more looks like it may have been the Councils fault.
Yep, that email that Les Reid uncovered about how Ann Lucas went out and ripped up CCFC advertising so people wouldn't go, or the insider story where John Mutton sneakily edited player contracts so they got more money, and let's not forget Chris West spending all night rigging the Telegraph poll so that Thorn won and would be appointed.
DAMN YOU COUNCIL!!!!
Blimey that was quick.You Council wallahs sure are quick to stamp on any implied criticism. You are like a cult.
*shakes fist at sky*
You've got to be realistic about that, all that money wouldn't have been enough to cover wages and running costs. SISU have run the club into the ground, but they (or rather their investors) are the ones funding the losses, not a couple of hundred pounds each a year from supporters.
AndreasB said:I can't use the quote system, I'm as technically literate as a 5 year old.
Hang on, you can't have it both ways. Either Sisu have run the club (into the ground or not) and are therefore responsible for the costs of the business and the income of the business. Or it's all Mike McGinnity's fault and Sisu have been funding losses that any competent management team would have reduced. If they reduced costs while also reducing income then that's just poor management.
Every new chairman we're told how the club is wasting loads of money and how now they aren't. We had it with McGinnity, then Ranson, then Delieu and now Fisher. Each one claimed to have streamlined the club. FFS McGinnity went as far as trying to rebadge the club to save on printing costs, yet when SISU arrived, it was Ranson telling us how we're wasting loads of money and we'd soon break even after all the cost cutting. Then Delieu came in with apparently a remit to cut costs and got us relegated in the process, but it was all worth it because we now had a club run sensibly. Then Fisher comes in and says the same again. Now we're still apparently overspending and need to "cut our cloth" so much that without a massive expenditure on a new stadium or a new lease we won't earn enough money.
Sounds about as financially literate as your average Tory chancellor.
Much like a Tory chancellor, I suspect this has less to do with a wish to improve the finances of the club and more to do with an ideological point of view.
(this rant not aimed at you, just at an endless stream of chairmen telling us that they need to cut costs with no seeming end in sight)
I accept that you're not aiming this at me, and rightly so, as I'm only suggesting one thing, so clearly I'm not trying to have anything 'both ways'.
My response was to a suggestion that SISU were in some way syphoning off money, which on current attendances etc, there won't be any to syphon off.
Sounds about as financially literate as your average Tory chancellor.
As far as I know we havent seen any accounts for a while so its difficult to know. But it isnt clear where the fees for Christie and Wilson have gone. Maybe to fund day to day costs maybe not. Ive still no idea how much they have actually 'invested' since they have been here just unsubstantiated claims from seemingly unreliable sources such as Tim Fisher. Agreed its difficult to see how they could syphon off more money now, but the attendances are their own fault as you can only take the piss for so long.I accept that you're not aiming this at me, and rightly so, as I'm only suggesting one thing, so clearly I'm not trying to have anything 'both ways'.
My response was to a suggestion that SISU were in some way syphoning off money, which on current attendances etc, there won't be any to syphon off.
Yep, that email that Les Reid uncovered about how Ann Lucas went out and ripped up CCFC advertising so people wouldn't go, or the insider story where John Mutton sneakily edited player contracts so they got more money, and let's not forget Chris West spending all night rigging the Telegraph poll so that Thorn won and would be appointed.
DAMN YOU COUNCIL!!!!
*shakes fist at sky*
No the stuff I meant was Councillors overvaluing/lying about a City asset then selling it on the cheap to a hedge fund (probably who they had been dealing with for 12 months) therefore damming the football club to an uninvestable nuclear winter for however many hundred years wasps have that lease for AND for whoever picks up the pieces of this sorry club after SISU. That.
Well it more and more looks like it may have been the Councils fault.
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