Sky Blue Harry H
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Playing like that would never beat a France or Belgium (add several more to the list)
Going from losing to a country smaller than Cov to a WC semi and Euro final. It'll do for me, only one more step to go.
Going from losing to a country smaller than Cov to a WC semi and Euro final. It'll do for me, only one more step to go.
Well it was just sloppy without any real full on desire IMO.
Boys didn't seem particularly focused.
The same France that have drawn twice to Ukraine and once to Bosnia in their qualifying group. The same Belgium that piss their qualifying groups and piss their pants at tournaments.Playing like that would never beat a France or Belgium (add several more to the list)
The same France that have drawn twice to Ukraine and once to Bosnia in their qualifying group. The same Belgium that piss their qualifying groups and piss their pants at tournaments.
We need to get over this obsession of minor games. If he gets to the WC then he's done the job.
The same France that have drawn twice to Ukraine and once to Bosnia in their qualifying group. The same Belgium that piss their qualifying groups and piss their pants at tournaments.
We need to get over this obsession of minor games. If he gets to the WC then he's done the job.
The same France that have drawn twice to Ukraine and once to Bosnia in their qualifying group. The same Belgium that piss their qualifying groups and piss their pants at tournaments.
We need to get over this obsession of minor games. If he gets to the WC then he's done the job.
The same France that have drawn twice to Ukraine and once to Bosnia in their qualifying group. The same Belgium that piss their qualifying groups and piss their pants at tournaments.
We need to get over this obsession of minor games. If he gets to the WC then he's done the job.
I'd be guttedI know, but I'm not convinced that it's down to him, as much as having been lucky with the generation of players, Lovely bloke, intelligent, but I'm not sure I'd be excited if you told me he was going to be the next City manager,
I'd be gutted
I know, but I'm not convinced that it's down to him, as much as having been lucky with the generation of players, Lovely bloke, intelligent, but I'm not sure I'd be excited if you told me he was going to be the next City manager,
Was Germany in the quarters not a major game, was our first semi final win in 50 years not a major game. Nobody gives a shit about the nations league.To be fair, every major game he's managed us in he's failed .
Holland (nations league )
Croatia (World cup)
Italy (euros )
France won the nations league this past few days and the world cup in the last 4 years .. they are winners
It's not as though he got this post on the back of his managerial exploits to date was it. Marks and Spencer man, toes the line, says
If Belgium made it to the WC how did they still piss their pants?
Worst German side in my lifeWas Germany in the quarters not a major game, was our first semi final win in 50 years not a major game. Nobody gives a shit about the nations league.
Jogi Lowe didn't exactly have a brilliant club career and he did alright. A lot of countries actually do well bringing managers through their youth setups as it's different from club football.It's not as though he got this post on the back of his managerial exploits to date was it. Marks and Spencer man, toes the line, says the right things
Better to beat a shit German side in a major tournament than beat a great German side in qualifying, do fuck all in the tournament but obsess about it for 20 years.Worst German side in my life
Jogi Lowe didn't exactly have a brilliant club career and he did alright. A lot of countries actually do well bringing managers through their youth setups as it's different from club football.
Isn't Sam Allardyce exactly that type though?If I was trying to assess Gareth Southgate, he's a top guy who you can imagine gets players to keep a cool head, and is extremely pragmatic, but you could never imagine him giving a Shankly (look him up if you're a youngster) type speech to get the players in a 'let's rip their throats out' style speech. That's why he is so popular with the FA hierarchy, and why a Brian Clough, Neil Warnock type would never get the job.
Isn't Sam Allardyce exactly that type though?
I'm not even a huge fan of Southgate's tactics, I just don't get all the shit he gets when he's one of our most succesful managers ever.
I also really liked that Italy team but they could only get a goal against us by it bouncing off a defender's arse at a corner then us having 3 terrible penalty misses. If Mancini was that much better at international management he'd have battered Southgate.Not sure , I felt that Italy beneffited massively by playing a style similar to top club sides at the euros .. pressed hard , countered rapidly fast .. looked every bit a top European club side under a very good club manager Roberto mancini
I also really liked that Italy team but they could only get a goal against us by it bouncing off a defender's arse at a corner then us having 3 terrible penalty misses. If Mancini was that much better at international management he'd have battered Southgate.
Fabio Capello is our greatest manager on win % ever (that has managed for more than 1 game) when he qualified for the world cup he came 2nd in a group containing USA, Algeria and Slovenia and then got battered in the 16s.On paper maybe , can't brush aside the amount of luck that we got with the draw at both tournaments that gave him that title
Fabio Capello is our greatest manager on win % ever (that has managed for more than 1 game) when he qualified for the world cup he came 2nd in a group containing USA, Algeria and Slovenia and then got battered in the 16s.
I don't care how we get where we're getting so long as we get there. Feel free to call Southgate a twat if we're eliminated in Qatar group stages but it feels like were in the same position we were pre-euros when friendlies are massively analysed and there is an overreaction.
And if Marcus Rashford could put a pen 2 inches to the right Southgate would have turned around a team that hadn't won anything for 55 years who are notoriously difficult to play for with overhyped fan and media expectations into European champions.Well he's transformed Italy from the 21st ranked side in the world, lost 3 games in 44 and won the euros .
In 3 years , also came 3rd at the nations league just ... beating Belgium 2-1 in the 3rd /4th playoff
Calling @Brighton Sky BlueCapella ball was dreadful too , not too many enjoyed it
I'd agree with that. Nothing against him per se, but as much as I am currently enjoying watching City, I find I am regularly frustrated watching England, when they are too often less than the sum of their parts,Isn't Sam Allardyce exactly that type though?
I'm not even a huge fan of Southgate's tactics, I just don't get all the shit he gets when he's one of our most successful managers ever.
And if Marcus Rashford could put a pen 2 inches to the right Southgate would have turned around a team that hadn't won anything for 55 years who are notoriously difficult to play for with overhyped fan and media expectations into European champions.
Because we rolled the dice that letting them have the ball and trying to break us down would win it for us. It obviously didn't but I still stand by if we scored our third pen we're European champions right now. If that paid off he'd have a knighthood and a statue on the way.And to be fair @Liquid Gold , they did dominate us completely, they just didn't take their chances View attachment 22194
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