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I also forgot about Eric McManus - good spot.....as for Ramsbottom carrying on after the great Bill. I'm can't remember.....is there anyone else who can help on this one?
I also forgot about Eric McManus - good spot.....as for Ramsbottom carrying on after the great Bill. I'm can't remember.....is there anyone else who can help on this one?Also forgotten about Eric McManus who was...........forgettable.
Didn't Ramsbottom carry on as No1 when Glazier finished?
Burge was fantastic in the closing stages of the season. Notts County away as a good example.
Even the very best keepers drop a couple of clangers over a season. It's the nature of the position.
He's fast improving. We should back him. Get behind all the lads for the new season.
That save from Stead was wonderful and absolutely crucial, if De Gea had made it they'd still be on about it now/
I doubt Robins will be looking for another keeper, both are in contract. Burge is nowhere near as bad as some on here make out.
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He lost us more points than gained last season
Absolute nonsense.
So the people that voted him as GK of the year are clueless?
But wait, I suppose the actual football people know jack diddly squat compared Barry from Radford...
Big Barry was probably a founding member of the 'McNulty is fucking shit' brigade.
I'll never forget the way McNulty was vilified last season, anyone with any basic knowledge of football, even your average Bazza, could see McNulty was getting closer and closer and it was only a matter of time before he started scoring. I remember being giving dogs abuse by my mates and some other fans in the carriage on the way back from Accrington for daring to say that I thought he would get at least 15 league goals by the end of the season.... I never expected him to go on to get 28 goals mind!
If anyone needs to go it's O'Brien. I would want us to keep Burge and maybe bring in an experienced keeper. I really hope Burge can improve his consistency though.
Big Barry was probably a founding member of the 'McNulty is fucking shit' brigade.
I'll never forget the way McNulty was vilified last season, anyone with any basic knowledge of football, even your average Bazza, could see McNulty was getting closer and closer and it was only a matter of time before he started scoring. I remember being giving dogs abuse by my mates and some other fans in the carriage on the way back from Accrington for daring to say that I thought he would get at least 15 league goals by the end of the season.... I never expected him to go on to get 28 goals mind!
If anyone needs to go it's O'Brien. I would want us to keep Burge and maybe bring in an experienced keeper. I really hope Burge can improve his consistency though.
It was even funnier on here when somebody was slating mcnulty saying we needed Collins and that nazon wouldn't pass to McNulty because he wasn't top scorer.
It was obvious that McNulty needed more chances as his movement was there it's just he wasn't really picked out at the start of the season with decent passes.
I think a lot of people forget he is 25, for a goalie that is not old in fact it is said goalies don't usually reach their peak till 30ish.
I believe he will get better, he's certainly improved from where he was a few seasons ago.
Naturally other options are available but I don't think they need to be a priority.
Go on...
You really think a team could get promoted and keep as many clean sheets as we did with a keeper that costs a team more points than he wins?
In fact I'm not sure it's even possible for a professional keeper to lose a team more points than he wins, I think it's nearly impossible. It's a ridiculous thing to say.
Not really is it? Games he single handedly threw away with clangers, in comparison to those where he arguably won us the points? Off the top of my head; Luton at home. Exeter away, Forest Green at home, Mansfield at home, and he started the debacle against Yeovil. 5 games and I’m sure there were a couple more. That’s not criticism, it’s stating pure facts. Can you say that there were 5 games that he offset the points lost? 2 perhaps at a push.
All I’m saying is that although there’s no doubt he improved, there is no way we can drop points in that manner next season through individual goalkeeping errors. We are heading for the league above and need better quality, without a shadow of a doubt. Keep him as an understudy.
The only reason we’d need a new goalkeeper would be if we were in the championship. Burge is more than adequate in league one and two,.
I don't agree.
He could of cost us much more today. Flapping a leg around at that corner not only would of been a pen if contact was made, but a red card too. He was pushed and pulled out of position FAR to easily by their player. As a keeper you have to do better. He should of had a defender between the 2 of them to start with and needed to be much stronger. After the goal v Notts county away in the league he'd of learnt his lessons. Clearly not, one of the main reasons he's not good enough. He's not learning and hasn't improved (in my eyes) at all in the time he's been here.Agree. Both aren’t good enough for this level and I’m baffled as to why we haven’t gone out and prioritised a number one. Despite Burge’s positive moments today, he could’ve cost us dearly. ‘That’s what you get in League 1’ doesn’t cut it for me. There’s better out there. 2 howlers from O’Brien and 2 in the same game from Burge (albeit 1 resulting in a goal). We are only on game 7!
He did not look confident coming for crosses. The goal, though not his fault, he should have been at least on the correct side of the goal. Another moment where he came out of his goal to punch when catching was far easier optionFor what it’s worth I thought burge looked very solid today.
It looked to me like he needed a bit of protection in the lead up to the one that went past the post from the corner and I thought the goal was due to sterling, not him.
He looked assured. Not often I’ve said that!
I can’t remember him spilling anything at crosses. He made a great one handed save and his kicking was pretty good. I can’t really see what else he could’ve done.He did not look confident coming for crosses. The goal, though not his fault, he should have been at least on the correct side of the goal. Another moment where he came out of his goal to punch when catching was far easier option
So because the defenders were out of position or is his fault?He could of cost us much more today. Flapping a leg around at that corner not only would of been a pen if contact was made, but a red card too. He was pushed and pulled out of position FAR to easily by their player. As a keeper you have to do better. He should of had a defender between the 2 of them to start with and needed to be much stronger. After the goal v Notts county away in the league he'd of learnt his lessons. Clearly not, one of the main reasons he's not good enough. He's not learning and hasn't improved (in my eyes) at all in the time he's been here.
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Our defending this season has been dire no matter who has been in goal, that is what we need to address first. Imho.
from what I’ve read Robins has a lot of faith in Addai, so I can see him knocking on the first team door soon, but Burge will do me for now.
Imo O’Brien needs to go.
Where have you read that?
When did I mention the goal?? I mentioned his being out of position for lack of strength and being bullied by their players. If he was positioned properly (middle of the goal) then chances are he could of saved the header. He was pushed and pulled around far to easy with np fight and nearer his back post so when the free header came in, there was no other outcome.So because the defenders were out of position or is his fault?
Because no defender was on the goal scorer it was his fault?
Our defending this season has been dire no matter who has been in goal, that is what we need to address first. Imho.
Statements where 'of' have been used instead of 'have' have to be disregarded.When did I mention the goal?? I mentioned his being out of position for lack of strength and being bullied by their players. If he was positioned properly (middle of the goal) then chances are he could of saved the header. He was pushed and pulled around far to easy with np fight and nearer his back post so when the free header came in, there was no other outcome.
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So because the defenders were out of position or is his fault?
Because no defender was on the goal scorer it was his fault?
Our defending this season has been dire no matter who has been in goal, that is what we need to address first. Imho.
I do believe that some of those who say he will do for League One clearly fail to understand the importance of a goalkeeper to a successful team. Burge did OK today, albeit had the odd mistake and his kicking was abysmal but the performance by large was OK. But as today's performance showed, he isn't a promotion winning goalkeeper at this level.
So, if we have ambitions on getting back to the Championship, investment has to be made in securing a solid goalkeeper who's consistent game in game out. I find that those who are behind Burge 100% only post when he's played well - something I fail to understand as how often does Burge genuinely deserve praise, maybe 1/5 games at best? Great that a section of fans are 100% behind him but it comes to a point where it gets a bit far fetched as when it comes down to it no matter how much time you give him, he's just not good enough. I think he's fine as a backup but IMO MR made a mistake not bringing in another GK.
But where have the defenders been at set pieces? we look vulnerable at every corner.Our two centre halves have been excellent
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