Is AFC / Phoenix a step closer ? (1 Viewer)

shy_tall_knight · Jan 16, 2014

Any hopes of SISU agreeing to go back to the Ricoh looks even less likely after their latest legal action. Northampton it is for the forseeable future. The new stadium "the fisher bowl" still seems to be out there in the realms of fantasy.

the next few years will see us drift further, whilst SISUE pursue legal actions etc...Other clubs try to increase their fan base, manage their PR, build relations with the local community - SISUE do the opposite.

I'm going to the emirates next Friday but my passion for CCFC is drifting and will continue to do so under this regime and lets be honest they ain't going nowhere.

AFC or Phoenix type club - is this the answer. CCFC as a brand has history but its value is surely in its potential support, club owners take this for granted as supporters rarely change clubs.

Sky Blue Harry H · Jan 16, 2014

Bring it on (as long as we can have a sarolium)!

mrtickle · Jan 16, 2014

Sorry but this a bs. I won't ever support another club trying to be cov. Seems like a troll or so one who is in with cov united!!!!

mark82 · Jan 16, 2014

mrtickle said:
Sorry but this a bs. I won't ever support another club trying to be cov. Seems like a troll or so one who is in with cov united!!!!

If he was connected with Coventry United would he not be saying to support them?

letsallsingtogether · Jan 16, 2014

Well if CCFC leave the City forever you will be.

mrtickle said:
Sorry but this a bs. I won't ever support another club trying to be cov. Seems like a troll or so one who is in with cov united!!!!

Broken Hearted Sky Blue · Jan 16, 2014

shy_tall_knight said:
Any hopes of SISU agreeing to go back to the Ricoh looks even less likely after their latest legal action. Northampton it is for the forseeable future. The new stadium "the fisher bowl" still seems to be out there in the realms of fantasy.

the next few years will see us drift further, whilst SISUE pursue legal actions etc...Other clubs try to increase their fan base, manage their PR, build relations with the local community - SISUE do the opposite.

I'm going to the emirates next Friday but my passion for CCFC is drifting and will continue to do so under this regime and lets be honest they ain't going nowhere.

AFC or Phoenix type club - is this the answer. CCFC as a brand has history but its value is surely in its potential support, club owners take this for granted as supporters rarely change clubs.

Fisher and co dont own the history

mrtickle · Jan 16, 2014

letsallsingtogether said:
Well if CCFC leave the City forever you will be.

Sorry mate but I'd give it all up. I'm halfway there with this Northampton bs. Support England instead. I've been to a fair few away games and would rather do that. It's cccc or nothing for domestic footy for me.

mrtickle · Jan 16, 2014

mark82 said:
If he was connected with Coventry United would he not be saying to support them?

Seems implied by the thread but could be wrong.

@richh87 · Jan 17, 2014

mrtickle said:
Sorry mate but I'd give it all up. I'm halfway there with this Northampton bs. Support England instead. I've been to a fair few away games and would rather do that. It's cccc or nothing for domestic footy for me.

Well that's a bit defeatist isn't it. Did Wimbledon fans just give up? I respect them more than any others.

We need a football team, but one owned properly - with the fans having a controlling stake.

If we could retain a chunk of our support then the rise through the leagues would be a great experience.

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bigfatronssba · Jan 17, 2014

As I've said before, the city of Coventry needs a professional football club.

If sisu are determined to never play in the city again then we need to provide Coventry with its football club.

Otis · Jan 17, 2014

It's Coventry City for me too, but if they stay away from Coventry, then they won't be Coventry anymore and I would back a new club at that point.

If a new team formed now as an altenative to CCFC and I knew the City be away for 5 years or more, I would follow them while supporting the City from afar.

This new team though would have to be a serious venture with money behind it and a real desire to enter the higher leagues.

I don't get a sense of that with Coventry United. They have set their stall not to be in competition with CCFC. Whether their stance would change if City stayed away I don't know.

Covlad65 · Jan 17, 2014

Sorry but would never support any other club apart from COVENTRY CITY FC...No AFC, No Pheonix club so just like you mrtickle I would save my money and support England home and away

skybluetony176 · Jan 17, 2014

If ccfc never came back to the city of Coventry and a phoenix club set up l would support it just to stick two fingers up to sisu. But we're not there yet.

letsallsingtogether · Jan 17, 2014

Well at least you know what to expect supporting England! The same as Supporting Coventry..

Covlad65 said:
Sorry but would never support any other club apart from COVENTRY CITY FC...No AFC, No Pheonix club so just like you mrtickle I would save my money and support England home and away

stupot07 · Jan 17, 2014

@richh87 said:
Well that's a bit defeatist isn't it. Did Wimbledon fans just give up? I respect them more than any others.

We need a football team, but one owned properly - with the fans having a controlling stake.

If we could retain a chunk of our support then the rise through the leagues would be a great experience.

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AFC Wimbledon was set up AFTER it was CONFIRMED that Wimbledon was being PERMANENTLY relocated.

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Otis · Jan 17, 2014

It's a tough call this one Stu. There's a lot of ifs buts and maybes.

Think a new club would get a lot of support if CCFC stayed away and after say 3 years, still nothing was built.

For me, I would support a new club, but only until City came home.

bigfatronssba · Jan 17, 2014

stupot07 said:
AFC Wimbledon was set up AFTER it was CONFIRMED that Wimbledon was being PERMANENTLY relocated.

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Has it not been confirmed that ccfc will never play in Coventry again?

Stafford_SkBlue · Jan 17, 2014

If a new club was started what size stadium would it need, it certainly could never afford to play at the Ricoh, until they reached second tier (Championship at present).
Perhaps ground share with CCFC in the new stadium!!

It would have to play at Nuneaton or Leamington, which defeats the object or perhaps CCC will donate some land for the Club!!

Captain Dart · Jan 17, 2014

Otis said:
It's a tough call this one Stu. There's a lot of ifs buts and maybes.

Think a new club would get a lot of support if CCFC stayed away and after say 3 years, still nothing was built.

For me, I would support a new club, but only until City came home.

Agree there, people will gradually change their mind the longer nothing definite happens about a new ground.

I think it is now clear that 4 years from now is the minimum possible time needed before a new stadium could be available, as it stands, there is no land & no planning application. And god knows where SISU are really thinking about, if at all?

OyJimmy · Jan 17, 2014

If a Phoenix club started in Cov or Nuneaton was rebranded and relocated then I would go and watch them until CCFC returned. Well that would be the intention but if I got into the new club then in all honesty I'd probably just stay with then even if CCFC return in 4 or 5 years.

I guess I can see a scenario where Cov are playing in or near Cov but in a rubbish stadium. Given that a reformed Nuneaton could rapidly climb the leagues then after 4 years watching them I seriously doubt I would go back.

stupot07 · Jan 17, 2014

bigfatronssba said:
Has it not been confirmed that ccfc will never play in Coventry again?

No, not yet. The JR will be the turning point.

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magic82ball · Jan 17, 2014

Are there any serious people doing anything about this?. I would guess a lot of people would support and with the now seemingly permanent absence of CCFC from Coventry, I don't understand the commentators saying "only if there is no chance of a return" Surely now is the time? given there is no chance of a Coventry return.

What did the people of Wimbledon have that we as fans don't? Was it that they were just more organised?

magic82ball · Jan 17, 2014

stupot07 said:
No, not yet. The JR will be the turning point.

And when they lose that and launch another string of appeals lasting years?

Hobo · Jan 17, 2014

Still Coventry City FC despite all the attempts to destroy it.

TurkeyTrot · Jan 17, 2014

I think you need to look at the original question. Is an AFC Coventry a step closer?
Whether any of us are there yet and some never will be I personally think yes it is a step closer. Not quite there yet for me but certainly a step closer.

MichaelCCFC · Jan 17, 2014

magic82ball said:
Are there any serious people doing anything about this?. I would guess a lot of people would support and with the now seemingly permanent absence of CCFC from Coventry, I don't understand the commentators saying "only if there is no chance of a return" Surely now is the time? given there is no chance of a Coventry return.

What did the people of Wimbledon have that we as fans don't? Was it that they were just more organised?

Unless anyone knows different, Trust position is they'll only do afc if ccfc is liquidated.

Some of us kcic-ers looked at this pre christmas and very quickly realised starting a new club is a huge undertaking and completely impossible for 2014/15. Plus, support for a new club is growing but is still relatively small. In wanting to do something about football in Coventry we looked at different options and ended up with the sponsorship of Coventry Sphinx (see http://keepcovincov.weebly.com/kcic-supporting-football-in-cov---with-coventry-sphinx.html). Sphinx is now the senior team in Coventry, grew out of the car industry in the 1940s and is very much part of the City's heritage. It's not everyone's cup of tea but well worth a visit just to see what you think.

torchomatic · Jan 17, 2014

I'd never support an AFC/Phoenix club. Might as well pick a name out of a hat and support them.

torchomatic · Jan 17, 2014

With a billion steps to go.

TurkeyTrot said:
I think you need to look at the original question. Is an AFC Coventry a step closer?
Whether any of us are there yet and some never will be I personally think yes it is a step closer. Not quite there yet for me but certainly a step closer.

thaiskyblue · Jan 17, 2014

A journey of a billion steps start's with a single one ( well nearly the same ).lol.

torchomatic · Jan 17, 2014

True, I suppose. Not for me though.

thaiskyblue said:
A journey of a billion steps start's with a single one ( well nearly the same ).lol.

TurkeyTrot · Jan 17, 2014

torchomatic said:
I'd never support an AFC/Phoenix club. Might as well pick a name out of a hat and support them.

What would you do if you picked out Villa?

torchomatic · Jan 17, 2014

Well, it wouldn't be any worse or better than supporting an AFC team that meant nothing to me.

TurkeyTrot said:
What would you do if you picked out Villa?

Otis · Jan 17, 2014

torchomatic said:
Well, it wouldn't be any worse or better than supporting an AFC team that meant nothing to me.

It means nothing to me .......

Oh Vienna?

The Prefect · Jan 17, 2014

Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
Fisher and co dont own the history

Never a truer word spoken. The Club with all the history, FA Cup win etc. went bust and is being liquidating. That isn't the club supporters are following now.

SISU acquired the branding rights and a few assets of the old club with Football League approval. There's an argument that the SISU Company (Otium) is no more Coventry City than Coventry United. They're certainly less 'Coventry' than Sphinx who have a history with the city.

Supporters need to be aware that they're not supporting the Coventry City they knew (and loved). But a startup club with a few assets and a similar name. The CCFC we all supported is long gone.

The Prefect · Jan 17, 2014

torchomatic said:
Well, it wouldn't be any worse or better than supporting an AFC team that meant nothing to me.

You are supporting an AFC team - the old club is dead and being liquidated.

Be careful, you're not supporting the CCFC that won the FA Cup but an asset stripped start-up under the name 'Otium'. Branding rights and the Football League have made it so.

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