Drive past Weston, or further down the Banbury Road, and progress continues, with land being cleared.I’ve always been against HS 2 on the basist of Costs and need. With Covid and far fewer using trains in the short term it seems the arguments for HS 2 have trundled off to the horizon. Particularly as companies have new ways of working. I‘m not bothered about the face to face meetings between companies as this now seems irrelevant.
I don’t hear much about progress nowadays.
Isn’t it only going to save about 10-15 minutes from Manchester to London? If so, totally worth it!
By not stopping anywhere?Isn’t it only going to save about 10-15 minutes from Manchester to London? If so, totally worth it!
I've always thought the money would be better spent on a massive program of upskilling the work force.
I also read an article I came across from a train magazine where some fella quite laid out the case for current journey times being cut using an app where the basic premise was most people pre book trains to get the best deal and the app would allow people to swap trains to an earlier train for a small fee and cutting waiting times.
I've had a look and can't find the article but he made a convincing case.
The major case isn’t journey times but capacity I thought.
When it started it was probably times but then they realised it wasn’t a big difference so they said capacity, I don’t imagine the trains to London are jam packed at 11am on a Thursday. It’s a vanity project that has now gone to far to stop as big business would lose a fortune, the money would have been better spent improving the current system and internet speeds.
Yeah and one I could buy... if I was confident that promises about there being no reduction in service from Coventry / Rugby would be kept medium-long term.The major case isn’t journey times but capacity I thought.
Well they're certainly packed earlier! It's also how many trains (including freight) you can fit on the line.When it started it was probably times but then they realised it wasn’t a big difference so they said capacity, I don’t imagine the trains to London are jam packed at 11am on a Thursday. It’s a vanity project that has now gone to far to stop as big business would lose a fortune, the money would have been better spent improving the current system and internet speeds.
Yeah and one I could buy... if I was confident that promises about there being no reduction in service from Coventry / Rugby would be kept medium-long term.
Well they're certainly packed earlier! It's also how many trains (including freight) you can fit on the line.
Well they're certainly packed earlier! It's also how many trains (including freight) you can fit on the line.
HS2 in its entirety is not at all needed. Improved rail infrastructure between the midlands and the north is though. I’d have started with that stage of the project but was never going to happen.
I have been well aware of what HS2 actually is since it first was announced years ago. My parents lost a massive value on their house because of it so a lot of research was done into the project.
The whole thing when you look into it is a massive con, and a lot of people are making good money out of it. Originally they were going to link it to HS1 (channel tunnel), but would have to route through Camden. They basically decided they couldn't take the residents on, so scrapped that part of the route and tried to spin it saying they were only trying to save money. Project was at about 100 Billion at the time and that part would have saved 1 Billion of that. What's the point if it doesn't link up to HS1? Again, just serving London.
Even if you go back almost 10 years, there were obviously people being paid to infiltrate forums and argue pro-hs2 Propaganda. Dodgy as fuck.
I’ve always been against HS 2 on the basist of Costs and need. With Covid and far fewer using trains in the short term it seems the arguments for HS 2 have trundled off to the horizon. Particularly as companies have new ways of working. I‘m not bothered about the face to face meetings between companies as this now seems irrelevant.
I don’t hear much about progress nowadays.
I have been well aware of what HS2 actually is since it first was announced years ago. My parents lost a massive value on their house because of it so a lot of research was done into the project.
The whole thing when you look into it is a massive con, and a lot of people are making good money out of it. Originally they were going to link it to HS1 (channel tunnel), but would have to route through Camden. They basically decided they couldn't take the residents on, so scrapped that part of the route and tried to spin it saying they were only trying to save money. Project was at about 100 Billion at the time and that part would have saved 1 Billion of that. What's the point if it doesn't link up to HS1? Again, just serving London.
Even if you go back almost 10 years, there were obviously people being paid to infiltrate forums and argue pro-hs2 Propaganda. Dodgy as fuck.
Yeah, the premise of it is to continue to expand the London commuter belt. It actually compounds the imbalance in the UK economy.
No, I don't. Tbh it annoys me that everything is presented as a choice between HS2 and upgrading other bits of the network, it is completely false.This is a very fair point.
But can we really see a bunch of politicians and media in London suddenly deciding to change it? So it’s probably this sort of crap or nothing at all.
No, I don't. Tbh it annoys me that everything is presented as a choice between HS2 and upgrading other bits of the network, it is completely false.
Agree, HS2 phase 1 should've started between Leeds and BirminghamHS2 in its entirety is not at all needed. Improved rail infrastructure between the midlands and the north is though. I’d have started with that stage of the project but was never going to happen.
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