Good point, Jimmy Savile's crimes were hidden until he died. Close friends with the Thatcher establishment and the Royals too. Let's not pretend that child abuse cover ups are done only to protect ethnic minorities from recriminations.
Indeed though the point is around the softly softly approach that has ruled for years. Yes I know "not all Muslims are terrorists" " most Muslims are law abiding. I am aware of this. However this revolting ideology is festering within their communities and we need to be ruthless in rooting it out.
Indeed though the point is around the softly softly approach that has ruled for years. Yes I know "not all Muslims are terrorists" " most Muslims are law abiding. I am aware of this. However this revolting ideology is festering within their communities and we need to be ruthless in rooting it out.
Islamic extremism was seeded by the first Gulf War and was made far worse in the second with an illegal invasion. The West's endorsement of Israel, a state which has harrassed Muslim nations across the region since its foundation, doesn't help either. The best people can hope for with respect to IS is that the likes of Iran and Saudi Arabia can be persuaded that an extremist state on their doorstep isn't in their interests and put it down themselves. We trained them, armed them, then gave them more than one reason to hate us.
The West has ruined the Middle East, I don't trust it to fix it.
Islamic extremism was seeded by the first Gulf War and was made far worse in the second with an illegal invasion. The West's endorsement of Israel, a state which has harrassed Muslim nations across the region since its foundation, doesn't help either. The best people can hope for with respect to IS is that the likes of Iran and Saudi Arabia can be persuaded that an extremist state on their doorstep isn't in their interests and put it down themselves. We trained them, armed them, then gave them more than one reason to hate us.
The West has ruined the Middle East, I don't trust it to fix it.
Might wanna check out the crusades.
Writing groups off as madmen never works. For a group to be that successful they have to be offering something that at least some rational people buy into. The 21st century is scary for lots of people, especially traditionalists.
They get ISIS, we get UKIP. Same thing, differing degrees. Unless we work out how to help people adapt to the pace of change well keep seeing this in one form or another.
Watching skynews and there's been a attack in Canada
The soldier shot today has died
Apparently 2 gunman shot dead a soldier from a car in Canada yesterday? Fresh muslim converts apparently. According to SKYNews
The incident in London when that soldier got murdered was despicable. I'm truly concerned that it won't be long until there is another bombings or a gunman opening fire on a crowd of people. Truly horrific times.
Not a case of if but when and I think it will eclipse anything the country has seen before. Hopefully it will wake people from their slumber and the fightback will start
Any one carrying out these outrages against their own Nation should be tried for treason and subsequently Executed .
What kind of fightback do you mean? I applaud the recent comments by prominent Muslims in the fight against them.
People will demand action when the atrocities start to happen on their doorstep. And that is what is required. Hard tough action. The type of action you expect when people have declared war on you. No hand wringing, no soft touch.
People have to realise that over the next generation we will be fighting for our way of life. People have shrugged over the years as the liberal elite who despise this country
People will demand action when the atrocities start to happen on their doorstep. And that is what is required. Hard tough action. The type of action you expect when people have declared war on you. No hand wringing, no soft touch. People have to realise that over the next generation we will be fighting for our way of life. People have shrugged over the years as the liberal elite who despise this country have sold us down the river so long as they have their Sky Tv and cheap booze and play stations.Once they start to be in the receiving end they the people will wake up.
It doesn't take many people to create a climate of fear. Plots have already been foiled to kidnap and behead people. Like Wingy I want to see the perpetrators destroyed.
I'm crazy right. It will never happen? Looks like it already is
I'm not sure that creating martyrs is the way to go.
Any extremists have no place in a civilised society, whether they are Christian or Muslim. I was glad to see that the former leader of the EDL had abandoned his facist group. What we need is all sections of British society to speak out against this. As we saw with Alan Henning, all sections of society were against his barbaric murder. If we are labelling all Muslims as being anti-Western, then surely we should be labelling all white Christian religious leaders as being nonces?
Agreed. Probably what they want.
Let them rot in jail and I would be quite happy for their rights to be taken away. Don't see why they should be allowed all their human rights when they have acted in such an inhuman way.
We should feed them, cloathe them and ensure their safety, but I don't see why we should bend over to pamper to any religious needs they feel they may have (washing, praying etc.)
After all, decent Muslims don't see these people as true Muslims at all anyway.
These people are about as Muslim as I am!
Agree. They are hiding behind religion. In the name of Allah, my arse.
I'm not sure that creating martyrs is the way to go.
They already consider themselves Marty's though, don't they .
What I'm saying Is treat them as the Crimainals they are ,Punished by death,put an end to them and the Glory they seek.
I think we have gone past believing this is anything to do with colour, religion or anything else. It is a cult attracting the misfits and inadequates of the world which needs to be destroyed.
They are not martyrs if they are not killed.
For many of them, being killed by the enemy state is exactly the glory they seek, and it will rally many more to the cause rather than act as a deterrent. If you believe Britain is better, then it should act better.
Simple really, anyone involved in terror attacks is deported to..... and there family's and extended family to iraq,afghanistan , wherever, just fook em off.
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