It’s not over yet (1 Viewer)

covboy1987 · May 23, 2020

Are the wheels starting to come off on our promotion – We all seem to be pretty certain of league 1 not playing on, but now the likes of Oxford have thrown their hat in the ring and want to play on – There are a number of teams sitting on the fence that could be enticed last minute -no doubt the clubs that want to finish season have been constantly in touch with these clubs to swing there vote. The premier league have now also come out and said that there may be no relegation from the premier league ? Where does that leave Leeds and West brom, and then of course ,ore importently the effect on our league- It’s not over yet

AStonesThrow · May 23, 2020

I could be wrong, but how I’ve read things is we only need 51% of the Championship vote to finish the EFL season on PPG for us to be promoted. If we don’t get the 51% then it goes to a league 1 vote. Can anyone correct/confirm this?

kg82 · May 23, 2020

Wheels coming off? Got to say, that’s a bit of an embarrassing statement when you’re talking about it through PPG. If we’d had the chance to play (and lose games)... that’s wheels coming off. If it gets voted that we have to play on, we play on. It’s just delaying the inevitable. I can’t see that happening though.

Macca · May 23, 2020

Play on and complete play offs?

to mind if the season continues it should replicate what should have happened had we carried on from March. No cramming in fixtures or that nonsense. Also wait for fans to be allowed as playing behind closed doors is far more of a disadvantage to us than others given our excellent away support. The only fair way to continue the season is to restart at exactly the same tune as we stopped this year

Grendel · May 23, 2020

AStonesThrow said:
I could be wrong, but how I’ve read things is we only need 51% of the Championship vote to finish the EFL season on PPG for us to be promoted. If we don’t get the 51% then it goes to a league 1 vote. Can anyone correct/confirm this?

Each league initially votes on if to continue or not so 12 votes in league 1 is decisive - I suspect Tranmere and Southend will refuse to vote

Macca · May 23, 2020

Quite frankly playing on is as artificial as PPG

Grendel · May 23, 2020

Macca said:
Quite frankly playing on is as artificial as PPG

It’s been delayed far to long already - I would have thought by now the efl would have been looking how to make next season work rather than sitting on their hands

Macca · May 23, 2020

Grendel said:
It’s been delayed far to long already - I would have thought by now the efl would have been looking how to make next season work rather than sitting on their hands

Indeed, that seems to have been entirely forgotten about

better days · May 23, 2020

covboy1987 said:
Are the wheels starting to come off on our promotion – We all seem to be pretty certain of league 1 not playing on, but now the likes of Oxford have thrown their hat in the ring and want to play on – There are a number of teams sitting on the fence that could be enticed last minute -no doubt the clubs that want to finish season have been constantly in touch with these clubs to swing there vote. The premier league have now also come out and said that there may be no relegation from the premier league ? Where does that leave Leeds and West brom, and then of course ,ore importently the effect on our league- It’s not over yet

I think the 71 clubs have to vote on the EFL's proposals
So there has to be a simple majority of all three divisions to sanction the overall plans
Then the individual divisions vote on the options for their division
That's my understanding at least...........

Sky Blue Harry H · May 23, 2020

Well let'hope the CET aren't in charge of the official count.
Extract from today's article......

Oxford United yesterday made clear that they will stand with Rotherham United and Sunderland in voting to play on for the final nine games.
Meanwhile, AFC Wimbledon, Rotherham United, Burton Albion and Shrewsbury Town all say they will vote in favour of ending the season now.
t's hope the CET aren't in charge of the official count.

Sky Blue Harry H · May 23, 2020

Grendel said:
Each league initially votes on if to continue or not so 12 votes in league 1 is decisive - I suspect Tranmere and Southend will refuse to vote

I understand Southend G, but surely Tranmere want to play on?

Grendel · May 23, 2020

Sky Blue Harry H said:
I understand Southend G, but surely Tranmere want to play on?

It seems they have dug the pitch up and Palios wants the season voided

Grendel · May 23, 2020

Actually Tranmere can play as pitch could be ready

Pitch update from the Chairman

Magwitch · May 23, 2020

covboy1987 said:
Are the wheels starting to come off on our promotion – We all seem to be pretty certain of league 1 not playing on, but now the likes of Oxford have thrown their hat in the ring and want to play on – There are a number of teams sitting on the fence that could be enticed last minute -no doubt the clubs that want to finish season have been constantly in touch with these clubs to swing there vote. The premier league have now also come out and said that there may be no relegation from the premier league ? Where does that leave Leeds and West brom, and then of course ,ore importently the effect on our league- It’s not over yet

I have had my doubts about relegation from the Premiership for a while the big question is will the Prem increase the clubs in it for a season or two to 22 or 23. The EFL have covered themselves a bit this week by saying there will be promotion and relegation throughout their divisions just a case of how they do it but they have no say in what happens in the Prem. But if as I suspect the Premiership curtail relegation I think the same will happen down the leagues but teams will be promoted.

matesx · May 23, 2020

covboy1987 said:
Are the wheels starting to come off on our promotion – We all seem to be pretty certain of league 1 not playing on, but now the likes of Oxford have thrown their hat in the ring and want to play on – There are a number of teams sitting on the fence that could be enticed last minute -no doubt the clubs that want to finish season have been constantly in touch with these clubs to swing there vote. The premier league have now also come out and said that there may be no relegation from the premier league ? Where does that leave Leeds and West brom, and then of course ,ore importently the effect on our league- It’s not over yet

Well that’s cheered me up no end.

Liquid Gold · May 23, 2020

It's not over yet but Hitler is in his bunker and the red flag is being unfurled.

Sky Blue Pete · May 23, 2020

The season is over course it is.

Irish Sky Blue · May 23, 2020

There was a representative of the PL on the news last night saying that no decision had been taken on relegation from that league yet. It does cast a shadow. You would hope the FA are strong enough to stand up to the PL and insist that their earlier pledge is carried through.

Tommo1993 · May 23, 2020

Try hard as I might I really can’t see football carrying on. If clubs wanna vote for it, fair enough, 27 points in most cases to play for, they deserve a chance.

It’s the same as voting to cripple your club to pay for tests. Have at it then. It’s not happening.

Liquid Gold · May 23, 2020

Irish Sky Blue said:
There was a representative of the PL on the news last night saying that no decision had been taken on relegation from that league yet. It does cast a shadow. You would hope the FA are strong enough to stand up to the PL and insist that their earlier pledge is carried through.

Premier league are back in training for a BCD finish though like the Bundesliga. They can't play 38 games then drop relegation.

jordan210 · May 23, 2020

Grendel said:
Actually Tranmere can play as pitch could be ready

Pitch update from the Chairman

A couple of other clubs have dug up pitches in the last couple of weeks. Cant remember who mind you.

Irish Sky Blue · May 23, 2020

Liquid Gold said:
Premier league are back in training for a BCD finish though like the Bundesliga. They can't play 38 games then drop relegation.

This guy admitted that there was a possibility that the games may not be played and so was asked how would the league would then be sorted out.

Liquid Gold · May 23, 2020

Irish Sky Blue said:
This guy admitted that there was a possibility that the games may not be played and so was asked how would the league would then be sorted out.

Fair enough. I think the pressure of giving Liverpool the league would mean they go ppg.

Marty · May 23, 2020

Even if they do drop relegation from the PL (which they won't), they're a separate body, I can still see promotion and relegation between the EFL divisions.

A lot of clubs seem to be making noise but the reality is why would you spend close to a million pound to play out the season, especially for the top 6, midtable teams and those so far cut adrift it's not even worth it (Southend and Bolton).

Irish Sky Blue · May 23, 2020

Liquid Gold said:
Fair enough. I think the pressure of giving Liverpool the league would mean they go ppg.

I would hope that too but I could still see a scenario where Liverpool, Leeds, ourselves and Swindon are declared champions but for the latter three, no promotion. This would satisfy Liverpool with only Leeds then holding any real clout.

tisza · May 23, 2020

Think League 1 clubs know pretty much the vote will go having gauged the mood of what meetings there have been - Peterborough's owners seemed to have given up as soon as the EFL announcement was made this week.

fatso · May 23, 2020

Stop panicking everyone! The season is over!
Fears of a second wave, fluctuating R levels,
People still dying, lack of testing time and facilities,
Differing R levels throughout England,
The extra costs of testing, numerous players being unavailable, the unnecessary risk of exposure, the threat of legal action should anyone get the virus due to playing, etc etc etc, it's just not going to happen.

alfielloyd · May 23, 2020

Grendel said:
Actually Tranmere can play as pitch could be ready

Pitch update from the Chairman

although it may appear peculiar I am pretty certain that Tranmere are not strongly in favour of completing the season. from the bits and pieces I have picked up they appear to be relatively philosophical about their fate.

ajsccfc · May 23, 2020

AStonesThrow said:
I could be wrong, but how I’ve read things is we only need 51% of the Championship vote to finish the EFL season on PPG for us to be promoted. If we don’t get the 51% then it goes to a league 1 vote. Can anyone correct/confirm this?

I think a first vote is to approve PPG as a permanent option going forward where seasons can't be finished in future, if that gets the ok League 1 clubs then vote for this season whether to adopt that or play on

kg82 · May 23, 2020

ajsccfc said:
I think a first vote is to approve PPG as a permanent option going forward where seasons can't be finished in future, if that gets the ok League 1 clubs then vote for this season whether to adopt that or play on

I tell you what, forget this season (I think it’ll be PPG), but if a new season starts and this comes back and we have to stop the season again, that’s kind of worrying. I’d be worried about being in the bottom 3 at any point in a season, but once you’ve completed 50% or so, I’d be shitting it!

cc84cov · May 23, 2020

Another day

More panicking I see

Magwitch · May 23, 2020

Irish Sky Blue said:
There was a representative of the PL on the news last night saying that no decision had been taken on relegation from that league yet. It does cast a shadow. You would hope the FA are strong enough to stand up to the PL and insist that their earlier pledge is carried through.

I am don’t think Premiership won’t relegate teams on ppg I reckon the FA would accept that so long as Prem is increased to 22, whether they go to 23 might be another thing.

SkyBlueCharlie9 · May 23, 2020

No way teams who are not playing for anything are going to put up any genuine fight in any games...would make a complete mockery of the end to the season and would be less fair than ending the season now based on PPG.
For me simplest way is for PPG with top 2 teams going up and then playoff teams having 3 games (2xsemi and a final) at neutral venue over 2 weekends in late June or early July. Failing that a penalty kick competition for teams in play offs only :happy:

RegTheDonk · May 23, 2020

Oxford risk slitting their own throats can't see them getting an auto spot.

Paxman II · May 23, 2020

It's just common snse, it must end now. I'm also begining to take the view that the top 3 go up and there are no play off's however unfortunate to the other 3 in the play off position.

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