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mark82 · Jan 22, 2022

theferret said:
I do get that, but we seem to finally have a little stability at the club, so let's just take a breath. We could spend £5 million in the next couple of weeks and it still wouldn't guarantee anything. After the last 10 years of turmoil I've no issue with the approach we are currently taking. At some point they might need to take a few risks, but I'm not sure that time is now. Making the playoffs, let alone progressing through them, is a huge ask from here anyway, let's not kid ourselves.

Just feels at times like we can't afford a full squad - i.e. if we want a left back we have to be a striker short. It's also fairly obvious we need an attacking midfielder, even more now we seem to be playing 2.

To be fair, it's probably mostly the frustration of defeat blurring my judgement at the moment.

Brighton Sky Blue · Jan 22, 2022

mark82 said:
Just feels at times like we can't afford a full squad - i.e. if we want a left back we have to be a striker short. It's also fairly obvious we need an attacking midfielder, even more now we seem to be playing 2.

To be fair, it's probably mostly the frustration of defeat blurring my judgement at the moment.

Not alone in that let me tell you

shmmeee · Jan 22, 2022

mark82 said:
Just feels at times like we can't afford a full squad - i.e. if we want a left back we have to be a striker short. It's also fairly obvious we need an attacking midfielder, even more now we seem to be playing 2.

To be fair, it's probably mostly the frustration of defeat blurring my judgement at the moment.

No I think you’re right. As it stands we’re down a striker, a CB, an AM and arguable one or two CMs and it means we have to play players through bad form, out of position, or lack options to change a game. If we had another Hamer or O’Hare to come in today, or a proper striker it could have been very different. I think the lack of quality at the back shows against the top teams as well.

We’ve still got some deadwood that can go in the summer but really we need the wage bill upping by a couple of mill in the summer.

Sky Blue Harry H · Jan 22, 2022

Ccfcisparks said:
Am I wrong white lightening Dave? I’d suggest you are Dave Boddy but atleast I know he can spell

Actually it's White Lightning (and no, I'm not Dave Boddy, although I can spell)

Brighton Sky Blue · Jan 22, 2022

shmmeee said:
No I think you’re right. As it stands we’re down a striker, a CB, an AM and arguable one or two CMs and it means we have to play players through bad form, out of position, or lack options to change a game. If we had another Hamer or O’Hare to come in today, or a proper striker it could have been very different. I think the lack of quality at the back shows against the top teams as well.

We’ve still got some deadwood that can go in the summer but really we need the wage bill upping by a couple of mill in the summer.

Lack of pace at the back more like

Tommo1993 · Jan 22, 2022

Bright really could’ve helped if he wasn’t such a berk. Especially if he’s one to work off the crowd.

Littlewood CCFC · Jan 22, 2022

Maybe my favourite knee jerk reaction to a loss yet SISU have made many errors in the past but you can't argue they have backed Robins in the recent years? We have put together a squad that outplayed QPR massively today who are a top 6 champ team. No need to spend silly money and risk going down derby's path, not sure what a sensible supportor expects in the current climate?

Briles · Jan 22, 2022

Ccfcisparks said:
Utter rubbish, giving us an extra couple of million a season isn’t going to be causing us any trouble.

Based on what? Your wallet or theirs?

Ccfcisparks · Jan 22, 2022

Littlewood CCFC said:
Maybe my favourite knee jerk reaction to a loss yet SISU have made many errors in the past but you can't argue they have backed Robins in the recent years? We have put together a squad that outplayed QPR massively today who are a top 6 champ team. No need to spend silly money and risk going down derby's path, not sure what a sensible supportor expects in the current climate?

Who said silly money. We don’t even have a full squad. We had to sell a striker to sign a left back. Why don’t you go away Neil and stick to giving people hugs at the matches.

Tommo1993 · Jan 22, 2022

Littlewood CCFC said:
Maybe my favourite knee jerk reaction to a loss yet SISU have made many errors in the past but you can't argue they have backed Robins in the recent years? We have put together a squad that outplayed QPR massively today who are a top 6 champ team. No need to spend silly money and risk going down derby's path, not sure what a sensible supportor expects in the current climate?

Are we talking recent seasons. Or the fact they’re happy to see Robins and the squad flounder on the comparable peanuts they’re putting forward now? We will not realistically compete and just plodding along hoping for survival is crap.

You’ve had a shocker. Leave.

Littlewood CCFC · Jan 22, 2022

Ccfcisparks said:
Who said silly money. We don’t even have a full squad. We had to sell a striker to sign a left back. Why don’t you go away Neil and stick to giving people hugs at the matches.

My names James not Neil you weirdo but thanks for taking my opinion with grace and not snapping

Littlewood CCFC · Jan 22, 2022

Tommo1993 said:
Are we talking recent seasons. Or the fact they’re happy to see Robins and the squad flounder on the comparable peanuts they’re putting forward now? We will not realistically compete and just plodding along hoping for survival is crap.

You’ve had a shocker. Leave.

'we will not realistic compete' at the start of the season we were all happy with safety now we are ahead of where we are budget wise, lose a game and is all SISU fault again this forum is madness when cov lose a game

samccov1987 · Jan 22, 2022

Problem is they are not going anywhere; they would have bailed long ago if they were.

If memory serves me correctly when people have looked at the accounts the interest payments/charges being levelled on the club are to pay down Sisus initial poor investment.

If we were to sell Hamer/Ohare for decent money it possibly takes sisu closer to their break even point; but then massively weakens the team and we’ll be in danger of dropping again.

Feel this is as good as it gets under the current regime but to finally have a fresh start we’ll have to stomach sold assets and crawl up from league 1 again.

Brighton Sky Blue · Jan 22, 2022

Littlewood CCFC said:
'we will not realistic compete' at the start of the season we were all happy with safety now we are ahead of where we are budget wise, lose a game and is all SISU fault again this forum is madness when cov lose a game

Think you’ll find people were criticising them regardless of results

Littlewood CCFC · Jan 22, 2022

Brighton Sky Blue said:
Think you’ll find people were criticising them regardless of results

Good for them they're entitled to their opinion

Grendel · Jan 22, 2022

Littlewood CCFC said:
'we will not realistic compete' at the start of the season we were all happy with safety now we are ahead of where we are budget wise, lose a game and is all SISU fault again this forum is madness when cov lose a game

We aren’t competing and we have owners who are divorced from the club other than accumulated interest abs payments

Brighton Sky Blue · Jan 22, 2022

Littlewood CCFC said:
Good for them they're entitled to their opinion

No thoughts on you being wrong?

GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee · Jan 22, 2022

I don’t disagree with the sentiment it’s just a very odd time to post it

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Littlewood CCFC · Jan 22, 2022

Brighton Sky Blue said:
No thoughts on you being wrong?

If a small minority want to blame the owners at the minute when the footballs excellent, we are improving year by year without spending beyond our means then I really do feel sorry for them not sure I'm wrong though I've only seen any mention of SISU when we lose because people are frustrated. Whatever though, I'm not going to argue on here it's really sensitive after a loss!

Tommo1993 · Jan 22, 2022

Littlewood CCFC said:
If a small minority want to blame the owners at the minute when the footballs excellent, we are improving year by year without spending beyond our means then I really do feel sorry for them not sure I'm wrong though I've only seen any mention of SISU when we lose because people are frustrated. Whatever though, I'm not going to argue on here it's really sensitive after a loss!

Happy for us to plod along on a bottom 3 budget. You’ll be among the first protesters when it inevitably isn’t enough to keep us up, I’m sure.

Littlewood CCFC · Jan 22, 2022

Tommo1993 said:
Happy for us to plod along on a bottom 3 budget. You’ll be among the first protesters when it inevitably isn’t enough to keep us up, I’m sure.

I think you should chat to your pal Brighton Sky Blue because How's it feel to be wrong?

Liquid Gold · Jan 22, 2022

Next season is likely to be the first we actually regress under Robins' tenure and it's going to be interesting to see how we deal with it as a fanbase.

Littlewood CCFC · Jan 22, 2022

Tommo1993 said:
Happy for us to plod along on a bottom 3 budget. You’ll be among the first protesters when it inevitably isn’t enough to keep us up, I’m sure.

Think you need a drink and a good night's sleep

cc84cov · Jan 22, 2022

Liquid Gold said:
Next season is likely to be the first we actually regress under Robins' tenure and it's going to be interesting to see how we deal with it as a fanbase.

Plenty more of “listen just hear me out”

CCFCSteve · Jan 22, 2022

Agree that we shouldn’t be overstretching ourselves with big transfers and contracts but as a few have said, a couple of really good quality loans could potentially sneak us into the plays offs which is surely worth a gamble….as much for SISU as the club

Grendel · Jan 22, 2022

Littlewood CCFC said:
If a small minority want to blame the owners at the minute when the footballs excellent, we are improving year by year without spending beyond our means then I really do feel sorry for them not sure I'm wrong though I've only seen any mention of SISU when we lose because people are frustrated. Whatever though, I'm not going to argue on here it's really sensitive after a loss!

We are spending above our means every season Sisu Capital have funded gaps in cash flow with high interest Loans and we now clearly have had to dump a player of the wage bill to find a replacement for Maatsen as we have no money.
As a business we are insolvent.

covmark · Jan 22, 2022

Grendel said:
We aren’t competing and we have owners who are divorced from the club other than accumulated interest abs payments

Of course we are competing. Very few games this season where we've been played off the park. Your second point I agree with. We're competing in spite of our owners not because of them.

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shepardo01 · Jan 22, 2022

CCFCSteve said:
Agree that we shouldn’t be overstretching ourselves with big transfers and contracts but as a few have said, a couple of really good quality loans could potentially sneak us into the plays offs which is surely worth a gamble….as much for SISU as the club

The staff will be fully aware of what is out there in terms of loans and will be weighing up any possible option.
Loans still incur cost. Often there is a loan fee and a percentage of wages to cover.
We tried to get Morgan Gibbs White - but could not compete with what others (Inc Sheff Utd) could offer.
We have a playing budget. That is known at the start of a season.
We do have a "full squad" - full because the budget has dictated so.

Where do we expect the "extra money" to come from??

tskezz · Jan 22, 2022

Ccfcisparks said:
SISU

You’ve taken us as far as you can on a few pennies. Even Robins who’s a miracle worker won’t take you any further unless you invest.

Either time to stump up a few more quid or get out.

Ahhh that's where you draw the line with sisu is it? Right

Ccfcisparks · Jan 22, 2022

tskezz said:
Ahhh that's where you draw the line with sisu is it? Right

Huh

slowpoke · Jan 22, 2022

shepardo01 said:
We tried to get Morgan Gibbs White - but could not compete with what others (Inc Sheff Utd) could offer.

Can’t or won’t compete ?

shepardo01 · Jan 22, 2022

slowpoke said:
Can’t or won’t compete ?

Read the last 6 lines of my post.

pusbccfc · Jan 22, 2022

Brighton Sky Blue said:
We have crowds in the top 10 and expenditure in the bottom 6-the manager needs and deserves to see more from that

We could have the biggest crowds in the division and still have a budget lower than most.

The vast majority in this division overspend.

clint van damme · Jan 22, 2022

Littlewood CCFC said:
If a small minority want to blame the owners at the minute when the footballs excellent, we are improving year by year without spending beyond our means then I really do feel sorry for them not sure I'm wrong though I've only seen any mention of SISU when we lose because people are frustrated. Whatever though, I'm not going to argue on here it's really sensitive after a loss!

Alexa - show me an example of Stockholm syndrome

Grendel · Jan 22, 2022

shepardo01 said:
The staff will be fully aware of what is out there in terms of loans and will be weighing up any possible option.
Loans still incur cost. Often there is a loan fee and a percentage of wages to cover.
We tried to get Morgan Gibbs White - but could not compete with what others (Inc Sheff Utd) could offer.
We have a playing budget. That is known at the start of a season.
We do have a "full squad" - full because the budget has dictated so.

Where do we expect the "extra money" to come from??

investment clearly

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