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I'd imagine he's on more of a bonus structure. Surely we wouldn't be paying him more than what we'd offer Hamer?
He must be on good money too.
That was what I was, very optimistically, alluding to! If we can afford to offer this fella a decent wage to entice him, surely we can do the same for our genius?I'd imagine he's on more of a bonus structure. Surely we wouldn't be paying him more than what we'd offer Hamer?
I mean the indications are that he's 'doug his heels in' (I'll get my coat) and not crumbled with the first offer which previous owners may have done.
There's plenty of press coverage on it.
And even SISU would have let us spend some of £20mil! It's still wait and see.I think anyone coming in after SISU would do well out of the comparison.
Saddlebrains right now
I don’t expect us to be spending all the Vic money either but as someone said there’s playoffs money and extra season ticket which should plug most of the operating losses so I’d like to see us spend a decent chunk more yet.Yeah extremely positive move and looks like real intent but we need a lot of players yet. Some of what Simms said in his interview sounded positive like he believed the intention is to challenge again but then could just be footballer soundbites. I assume he had to be sold on coming here though.
Next few in the door will tell us where we stand I think
Think the maths is a bit askew.Which is good news, he’s done really well out of that deal. It doesn’t mean anything really until we see what he does with it. We’ve currently seen an outgoing of €24m and we’ve spent £3.5m of it, if rumoured fees are true. That doesn’t take into the fact the extra £2m+ we’ve gained through playoffs and additional ST sales. How anyone can say “we now know what he’s about” after that boggles my mind. It’s a great start, there’s still a long way to go before we really know what the budget is and how much actually gets reinvested in the squad.
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Think the maths is a bit askew.
The income is unlikely to be all up front, and the expenditure you've quoted the lower end of the mooted figures. We know that the club was losing money each year, and the ST sales have really only given us an up front cash injection (great for cash flow, which is important - see Hyam last season). We have a lot of positions still to recruit to, but I can't see any reason to be suspicious of DK's dealings. MR appears to have got his striker target, and if MR is supported like this, it is a promising indicator.
Good point - forgot that when I posted. Although, that said, what exactly constitutes an operational loss? If it were previously say £3m, but we get an extra £2m TV income and extra £1m ST money, does that mean he funds nothing? Not being mischievous - just wondered what it meant practically.King committed all operational losses will be funded by him
Good point - forgot that when I posted. Although, that said, what exactly constitutes an operational loss? If it were previously say £3m, but we get an extra £2m TV income and extra £1m ST money, does that mean he funds nothing? Not being mischievous - just wondered what it meant practically.
A Hamer contract, a Simms wage will soon wipe that out and more.Good point - forgot that when I posted. Although, that said, what exactly constitutes an operational loss? If it were previously say £3m, but we get an extra £2m TV income and extra £1m ST money, does that mean he funds nothing? Not being mischievous - just wondered what it meant practically.
SiSU would never have hung out for the £20m thoughAnd even SISU would have let us spend some of £20mil! It's still wait and see.
SiSU would never have hung out for the £20m though
They'd have taken a set of panini stickers and a yoghurt
We don't know for certain, I think what we do know is that King didn't accept the first or possibly second offer, Viks comments in that interview about the club giving consideration to his wish to go there and not just considering the money point to this, King has done a good job if the reported fee is true.again we have no idea what the actual fee is
Think there is a middle ground between that and castigating him.....I don’t think it’s time to start sucking his dick yet.
Haven't said he's the messiah just showing appreciation for what he's done so farI don’t think it’s time to start sucking his dick yet. The reality is the only time we’ll ever be able to judge him is retrospectively when he’s gone. I give him credit for not selling players in January, I give him credit for what looks like 2 decent signings thus far and if we keep hold of Hamer I’ll give him credit for that too.
Word of warning about thinking he’s the messiah though. Look at Blackpool and the Oystons. Now, I’m not comparing Doug’s character to that of Owen Oyston to be clear. The comparison I’m making is that there would have been Blackpool fans who thought they were the Bees Knees after Blackpool reached the premier league. They sure learned their lesson.
Not many!there would have been Blackpool fans who thought they were the Bees Knees after Blackpool reached the premier league.
Look, both sides of this have been quick to try and prove a point. He's an owner of the club. He will make good and bad decisions. Yes, Sisu have gone, bit let's chill a bit. Also prob best to stop singing the song as well. It feels a bit cringey.
Good start, let’s see where we’re at when we play Leicester.
again we have no idea what the actual fee is
Funny but people were having hissy fits for not taking the first offer or then the second.There’s no evidence he played hardball no one kantrums foe not taking rnows what the fee is or was
That’s a shame, I’d just bought some knee pads too.I don’t think it’s time to start sucking his dick yet. The reality is the only time we’ll ever be able to judge him is retrospectively when he’s gone. I give him credit for not selling players in January, I give him credit for what looks like 2 decent signings thus far and if we keep hold of Hamer I’ll give him credit for that too.
Word of warning about thinking he’s the messiah though. Look at Blackpool and the Oystons. Now, I’m not comparing Doug’s character to that of Owen Oyston to be clear. The comparison I’m making is that there would have been Blackpool fans who thought they were the Bees Knees after Blackpool reached the premier league. They sure learned their lesson.
Isn't that the model we have had for a while?Its clear that Doug is at least trying to implement a model. All our signings are of an age where they can still develop, and potentially lead to bigger transfers in the future. Even if he isn't an oligarch, he realises hes having to invest some money to propel us on an upwards trajectory. One sale of above £7/8m a season and he wont ever have to invest a lot.
Wouldnt suggest so, signings such as Waghorn, Kane, Maguire, Moore didn't particularly have much upside. Think its probably down to the fact we have actual money to spend now.Isn't that the model we have had for a while?
Isn't that the model we have had for a while?
Thats the main difference yeah. When we were linked to players like Sharp I was more concerned we weren't gonna spend it appropriately. The fact we are dishing out 4 year contracts is a big statement too.Yes we have more money that’s the main difference - wage bill may be higher
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