Jamie Allen nomination (2 Viewers)

[steve101]

Nomination for EFL player of the month. Well deserved. Not recognised enough for what he brings to the team. Was outstanding coming back in.

 

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[shmmeee]

Nice of Frank to give him the day off yesterday as recognition.

 

[clint van damme]

Anyone advocating for him to be dropped to accommodate Grimes instead of Torp has lost their mind.

 

[Bertola]

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Anyone advocating for him to be dropped to accommodate Grimes instead of Torp has lost their mind.

Torp has also been nominated for Fans Player of the month, so it's not as cut and dry as you suggest.

FWIW, I like Allen, but the role he's come in and done excellently, is exactly what Grimes does, and does to a higher level

 

[AOM]

Well deserved, I don't think anyone else in the team has the engine Allen that gives us apart from maybe van Ewijk

 

[Grendel]

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Torp has also been nominated for Fans Player of the month, so it's not as cut and dry as you suggest.

FWIW, I like Allen, but the role he's come in and done excellently, is exactly what Grimes does, and does to a higher level

It is not Allens preferred role though

 

[David O'Day]

Anyone advocating for him to be dropped to accommodate Grimes instead of Torp has lost their mind.

Torp has been very good as well and plays in a more advanced role than Allen has been. Unless you are saying we change the midfield shape/move Allen forward or play Grimes in a role that isn't his most natural then people "haven't lost their minds".

 

[clint van damme]

Torp has been very good as well and plays in a more advanced role than Allen has been. Unless you are saying we change the midfield shape/move Allen forward or play Grimes in a role that isn't his most natural then people "haven't lost their minds".

I'd put Alllen in the more advanced role.
Torps come on leaps and bounds physically but he still has more work to do on that scores.

 

[Balli001]

I'd put Alllen in the more advanced role.
Torps come on leaps and bounds physically but he still has more work to do on that scores.

You are advocating dropping torp on physicalty but will leave Allen in in the same role....

 

[David O'Day]

I'd put Alllen in the more advanced role.
Torps come on leaps and bounds physically but he still has more work to do on that scores.

Allen doesn't have the technique to play in a more advanced role in this league though. He has been really good but he is mostly a safety first shorter passer at the moment so if you move him forward you lose Torps forward runs and his ability to pass quality progressive passes.

Allen has been very good but Grimes is best in the role he is in now and is better at it.

 

[covcity4life]

It's a toss up really isn't it? Both played well recently. Both were shit last night

Anyone advocating for him to be dropped to accommodate Grimes instead of Torp has lost their mind.

 

[covcity4life]

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Allen doesn't have the technique to play in a more advanced role in this league though. He has been really good but he is mostly a safety first shorter passer at the moment so if you move him forward you lose Torps forward runs and his ability to pass quality progressive passes.

Allen has been very good but Grimes is best in the role he is in now and is better at it.

I'd bring Grimes in for Allen myself too

 

[clint van damme]

It's a toss up really isn't it? Both played well recently. Both were shit last night

I'm not basing my opinion on just last night, that wouldn't be fair to any of the players. I've pretty much written it off.

 

[clint van damme]

You are advocating dropping torp on physicalty but will leave Allen in in the same role....

Allen is far stronger than Torp, currently.....

 

[fernandopartridge]

Allen doesn't have the technique to play in a more advanced role in this league though. He has been really good but he is mostly a safety first shorter passer at the moment so if you move him forward you lose Torps forward runs and his ability to pass quality progressive passes.

Allen has been very good but Grimes is best in the role he is in now and is better at it.

He played in a more advanced role in his entire career here prior to his recent run of games, that's where he's most effective is running on beyond the forward or between the lines.

 

[shmmeee]

Allen is far stronger than Torp, currently.....

Mentally, or…?

 

[clint van damme]

Mentally, or…?

Watch Torp, he still gets shrugged off the ball far too easy on occasion.
Like I say, light years ahead of where he was start of the season but still got work to do.

 

[shmmeee]

Watch Torp, he still gets shrugged off the ball far too easy on occasion.
Like I say, light years ahead of where he was start of the season but still got work to do.

Sure but have you ever watched Allen?

 

[PVA]

Once the injured players are back I don't think Allen or Torp will be starting.

 

[TomRad85]

I'm not taking away from Allen that he's been good recently, BTA has too, but I really don't see these guys starting regularly with everyone fit, which is ok btw. Lampard hasn't brought in Grimes to keep the likes of Allen in the team.

 

[clint van damme]

Sure but have you ever watched Allen?

Yes. Watched him as part of a team that actually got to the play offs so the experience he has is also handy.

 

[TomRad85]

Once the injured players are back I don't think Allen or Torp will be starting.

Let's see if Sheaf can get back to the Sheaf of old and not this seasons Sheaf.

 

[clint van damme]

Once the injured players are back I don't think Allen or Torp will be starting.

I'd agree.

 

[shmmeee]

Yes. Watched him as part of a team that actually got to the play offs so the experience he has is also handy.

Not sure how that makes him strong on the ball but this is a pro Allen thread so I’ll leave it there.

 

[PVA]

Let's see if Sheaf can get back to the Sheaf of old and not this seasons Sheaf.

Yes that's absolutely what we need to see.

A few players have regained form under FL and I'd back Sheaf to be another one

 

[Balli001]

Yes. Watched him as part of a team that actually got to the play offs so the experience he has is also handy.

So that makes him Hulk Hogan does it?

 

[TomRad85]

Yes that's absolutely what we need to see.

A few players have regained form under FL and I'd back Sheaf to be another one

Lets hope you are right.

 

[clint van damme]

Not sure how that makes him strong on the ball but this is a pro Allen thread so I’ll leave it there.

It doesn't, but its just another attribute thats handy in a play off run in.

 

[clint van damme]

So that makes him Hulk Hogan does it?

That's right, it's a boolean choice.
You're either weaker than Victor torp or hulk hogan!

 

[David O'Day]

He played in a more advanced role in his entire career here prior to his recent run of games, that's where he's most effective is running on beyond the forward or between the lines.

Yeah, he played there but he isn't good enough to do it at the level we want to be at.

I'm not sure where he played in the past has anything to do with this as he just isn't good enough in that role.

He doesn't have the technical ability to player higher in this team at the level we want to be at.

Fair play he has done well but he has reinvented himself as a safety first 5 yard passer of the ball in the past month because he lacks the technical ability to play a more progressive game at this level.

 

[steve101]

At the beginning of the season Allen had a heart scare. That's barely 4 months ago. Yet for the last month he has run around like a Jack Russell for the team. I have a lot of respect for him and was thrilled that out of all the players in the Championship, he has made the top 4.

 

[Grendel]

Once the injured players are back I don't think Allen or Torp will be starting.

But one assumes will be ahead of Eccles in the pecking order so where does that leave him?

 

[coop]

Allen should of stayed on last night and took Torp of instead.

 

[Chicken Mcgraw]

But one assumes will be ahead of Eccles in the pecking order so where does that leave him?

Right back? Maybe worth a try on Saturday?

 

[Potbellypig]

Back to the 4-2-3-1/4-3-3 for me now. Grimes and Allen in the middle. Grimes with the ball on a string and Allen to do the running. Perfect