Evo1883
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Could ofcourse just be moving local still
Could ofcourse just be moving local stillJust sold his house
Up /down sizing?Could ofcourse just be moving local still
He could have got Otis in.Bungalow saves his legs....PUSB
Or one of Schindler’s?He could have got Otis in.
Didn't Robins say he was ahead of schedule and that all being well he could potentially feature in a game setting (likely to be U23s) before the end of the season?
He did - I was surprised by that
Normal rehab protocol would see game time at 9 months earliest as the new graft has to fully incorporate into the new tunnels that are drilled to house the ACL
That would be end of June for Jones so pre-season realistically
Given his history I’d have thought they would be ultra-cautious
But the medical team obviously know what they’re doing so great to hear he’s ahead of schedule
Would make zero sense to rush him back just to play in the u23s. Personally hope he gets a (new contract first, then a) decent preseason with the 1st team squad and can kick on from there. Still think he could be a very useful player, even in the Championship. He just has it.Update from Robins in today's press conference suggests he's not close to an U23s return just yet
So would imagine that's his season done as we all expected
I think on track for pre-season games per the normal rehab timeline.
Robins says the report from his work at from St. Georges Park next week will act as the next 'milestone' in his recovery
I imagine he's probably stepping up into drills involving twisting/cutting while accelerating then decelerating. Always the last stage before a return to group training and contact drills etc
We badly lack a player or two that can put the opposition on the back foot and beat a man. If Robins wants to continue playing the way we do away from home then it is something he needs to address in the summer.Would make zero sense to rush him back just to play in the u23s. Personally hope he gets a (new contract first, then a) decent preseason with the 1st team squad and can kick on from there. Still think he could be a very useful player, even in the Championship. He just has it.
He might get a "pay as you play" contract for a while, until he proves that his body can cope with the demands of 2 games a week.Would make zero sense to rush him back just to play in the u23s. Personally hope he gets a (new contract first, then a) decent preseason with the 1st team squad and can kick on from there. Still think he could be a very useful player, even in the Championship. He just has it.
Spot on. There’s loads of ‘ifs’ but if they all came off he could be a very important player for us. Club and player deserve it after the last few years.We badly lack a player or two that can put the opposition on the back foot and beat a man. If Robins wants to continue playing the way we do away from home then it is something he needs to address in the summer.
Thinking of the players who have played AM in the box formation, it's not really Allen or Shipley or Hamer's game to do that and they are easily neutralised when they drop deep for the ball because if you close them down and limit their options to pass to they just don't have the individual skill to be effective - they are pass and move players and can't roll a man to get out of trouble like O'Hare does. People have said they think the intention was to play Godden and Walker up top together this season but I think Robins had also earmarked Jones and O'Hare for the box formation and had risked spending his limited budget elsewhere.
Are they actually a thing? Can’t see how it’s fair to expect a young person to train full-time at the level required to play championship football and only get paid if he plays. I’d just give him a short ish contract, with options in our favour, heavily incentivised and wrap him in cotton wool for 6 months.He might get a "pay as you play" contract for a while, until he proves that his body can cope with the demands of 2 games a week.
I'd love to see him have a run in the side as there's no doubt he has the talent.
Tbh 'pay as you play' contracts will almost always have a relatively modest weekly salary then a figure per game started and a lower amount for coming on as a subAre they actually a thing? Can’t see how it’s fair to expect a young person to train full-time at the level required to play championship football and only get paid if he plays. I’d just give him a short ish contract, with options in our favour, heavily incentivised and wrap him in cotton wool for 6 months.
Isnt that for players coming to and end after already making their money out of football.Tbh 'pay as you play' contracts will almost always have a relatively modest weekly salary then a figure per game started and a lower amount for coming on as a sub
There may also be a clause allowing for renegotiation after a certain number of appearances if it works out
So relatively low risk for the club but with an income for the player so he can at least pay his bills
I would think he will get a 12 month contract perhaps with a 12 month option covers both parties with a bit of insurance.Spot on. There’s loads of ‘ifs’ but if they all came off he could be a very important player for us. Club and player deserve it after the last few years.
Mostly, but only where the player has an issue that might mean they are often unavailable for gamesIsnt that for players coming to and end after already making their money out of football.
Yeah, other clubs are going to look at his recent injury record, and he'd struggle to get a half-decent deal anywhere really until he proves himself.Mostly, but only where the player has an issue that might mean they are often unavailable for games
But can also be used for younger players with a bad injury record where contracts have expired and the alternative would be to get a job outside the game to pay his bills
Are they actually a thing? Can’t see how it’s fair to expect a young person to train full-time at the level required to play championship football and only get paid if he plays. I’d just give him a short ish contract, with options in our favour, heavily incentivised and wrap him in cotton wool for 6 months.
A deal will be done that suits both sidesHe's been paid and had good medical help to recover for the last three years almost. We gave him a new contract last year and he's played zero times for the team (of course he'd be prefering it if he was).
Fact is if he got pay as you play you could count this years contract as being a down payment for next.
Yeah, I don’t really buy the idea that he owes us for looking after him. He got a serious injury (3 times!) while on our watch. If anything, we owe him IMO. Not saying it’s our fault or anything, but the fact is he was injured whilst an employee of and carrying out his duties for CCFC. I’m sure, as better days says, there will be a mutually acceptable way of doing it (that’s not pay as you playHe's been paid and had good medical help to recover for the last three years almost. We gave him a new contract last year and he's played zero times for the team (of course he'd be prefering it if he was).
Fact is if he got pay as you play you could count this years contract as being a down payment for next.
Yeah, I don’t really buy the idea that he owes us for looking after him. He got a serious injury (3 times!) while on our watch. If anything, we owe him IMO. Not saying it’s our fault or anything, but the fact is he was injured whilst an employee of and carrying out his duties for CCFC. I’m sure, as better days says, there will be a mutually acceptable way of doing it (that’s not pay as you play). I’m sure he’s not gonna be offered top of the pay scale, but if he lives up to his potential (and stays fit) then he can renegotiate it later.
So because McDonald’s wouldn’t look after someone injured at work (and maybe they would?) nobody deserves it. Irrelevant what a minimum wage employer can get away with, injured doing a minimum wage job is still injured and should still be looked after by the employer that employed them when they got injured. Not sure why you’re getting salty about it. You seem quite annoyed with him. Think he’s been sponging?Tell that to the minimum wage workers that get injured at work and can no longer do their jobs. Do you think they'd keep you on? Or give you a new contract at a time when you were unable to do the job they ask of you at a level you've never proved yourself at? And if they did to then give you another one after that when you'd not been able to do the previous one last time?
To suggest we owe him anything is ludicrous. If one of the promising academy lads gets badly injured after being with us since he was 7 should we just offer them a 5 year contract because we 'owe' it to them cos they got injured carrying out their duties for the club and there's a small chance they might recover and prove up to it?
If such a suggestion were made for any other player it'd be dismissed as insanity.
If he comes back next year for his sake I hope he rips the league up cos if not there's going to be some very disappointed people who've called for us to pay him for four years to do nothing.
Have to laugh at some fans carrying on like they're Victorian mill ownersSo because McDonald’s wouldn’t look after someone injured at work (and maybe they would?) nobody deserves it. Irrelevant what a minimum wage employer can get away with, injured doing a minimum wage job is still injured and should still be looked after by the employer that employed them when they got injured. Not sure why you’re getting salty about it. You seem quite annoyed with him. Think he’s been sponging?
Wrong thread mate. I did that earlier!I like Eccles energy
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I can't walk and chew gum at the same timeWrong thread mate. I did that earlier!
So because McDonald’s wouldn’t look after someone injured at work (and maybe they would?) nobody deserves it. Irrelevant what a minimum wage employer can get away with, injured doing a minimum wage job is still injured and should still be looked after by the employer that employed them when they got injured. Not sure why you’re getting salty about it. You seem quite annoyed with him. Think he’s been sponging?
Maybe so, but the point still stands. Get injured on the job and they have a responsibility to look after you. Whether that’s in medical fees and compensation or a new contract.He’s being kept on in case he comes good. If he was Bakayoko he’d not be kept on
Maybe so, but the point still stands. Get injured on the job and they have a responsibility to look after you. Whether that’s in medical fees and compensation or a new contract.
Morally.No they don’t. If say biamou breaks his leg on the last day of the season he’s not covered and wouldn’t be kept on. If it’s a guy whose scored 25 goals that season he’s offered a deal
Morally.
So because McDonald’s wouldn’t look after someone injured at work (and maybe they would?) nobody deserves it. Irrelevant what a minimum wage employer can get away with, injured doing a minimum wage job is still injured and should still be looked after by the employer that employed them when they got injured. Not sure why you’re getting salty about it. You seem quite annoyed with him. Think he’s been sponging?
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