LarryGrayson
New Member
if you didnt no wut sisu are then your a moron
I imagine that both he, Ranson and JE bought into the idea like we did.
I mean, the strategy was a good one until it changed and we began being asset-stripped.
They refused to answer that question. Said it isn't fair on anyone at the club to comment on their position.
(Impression I got was they may have someone else in mind).
How do we know they will request the money back if they haven't had an offer for the club, it's great you and others are feeding back the information from meetings like this, just have a feeling fans that have already been beaten into humiliation could finally see the last glimmer of hope going, and with it, it could be the club going as well!
Now, you won't believe this, but I'm sure people will come along and back me up who have been; but Gary Hoffman told us that he comes on this site because he's a fan and wants to hear people's views. He also said that Grendel, Torch, and LordSummerisle seem to make unfounded allegations against him.
(He's got a point there; and they are clearly arseholes).
Yes he did say he was shocked at some of their false allegations
I imagine that both he, Ranson and JE bought into the idea like we did.
I mean, the strategy was a good one until it changed and we began being asset-stripped.
How do we know they will request the money back if they haven't had an offer for the club, it's great you and others are feeding back the information from meetings like this, just have a feeling fans that have already been beaten into humiliation could finally see the last glimmer of hope going, and with it, it could be the club going as well!
if you didnt no wut sisu are then your a moron
Thanks for that articulate and helpful response.
We're all speculating here, so here goes my attempt....
I don't think even SISU are thick skinned enough to expect even a substantial chunk of their money back - money that has produced no return for the company it was put into.
I would guess that they would ask for more than any rational investor would pay, however my guess is that the trust issue would be the core of the problem. We've seen in this thread reports of how the previous bid was dealt with by them and we've seen the negotiating style adopted with ACL.
A deal of this type requires at least a minimal degree of trust on both sides and I don't think that it would be there.
However he also said we are all passionate about the club and if they could see what he and Joe were doing they would possibly have different views.
he cud have googled em an found out i wud before i became a director for won of there companys shocked he cud be so incompetent
There's no reason not to support Hoffman's proposals. We need investment, and he loves the club as much as any of us.
Are you deliberately writing like that?
are u deliberate writin lick that
We're all speculating here, so here goes my attempt....
I don't think even SISU are thick skinned enough to expect even a substantial chunk of their money back - money that has produced no return for the company it was put into.
I would guess that they would ask for more than any rational investor would pay, however my guess is that the trust issue would be the core of the problem. We've seen in this thread reports of how the previous bid was dealt with by them and we've seen the negotiating style adopted with ACL.
A deal of this type requires at least a minimal degree of trust on both sides and I don't think that it would be there.
if he got it so wrong before and cudnt even be bothered to find out who he was dealin with theres every reason
What would he find from looking them up? Sod all. We can't even find a picture of Joy Sepalla!
Torch
He basically said some people who go on skyblue talk
hide under false names and criticise him.
its not hard to find stuff on em mate
We all know it is extremely difficult.
Torch
He basically said some people who go on skyblue talk
hide under false names and criticise him. As an example if false names he said yours Grendel and Lord.
I can't imagine he randomly picked that out if his head surely you have been critical in the past?
Comments such as Hoffman's a banker the bastard will wait till nothing is left before moving in.
He is a banker he is only in it to make money etc etc.
So, I presume your real name is Mr Dongonzales?
Yes, I have criticized them both in the past. However, I don't think I've said Hoffman a "bastard". People have said that we'll be OK with Hoff and Elliot at the helm as they are City fans. Can'targue with that. However, I've pointed out that would be great if it as their money, but it won't be. I've also criticised JE for his association to past regimes. Criticism? Definitely. "False Allegations"? Not in my book. Why does he feel he shouldn't be questioned or criticised?
I hope they pull it off, I really do. I'll back them as they will be running CCFC and I always back the club.
Classic case of shooting the messenger!
Not at all. Just can't fathom why he's so bothered about criticism?
Not at all. Just can't fathom why he's so bothered about criticism?
Joe Elliott was only ever a vice-president and then an associate director and never party to the big decisions passed in the early 90s which had such a devestating effect on the football club. Became a full director and chairman during the tough time when sisu got involved. Elliott's businesses has pumped hundreds of thousands into the club, youth and reserves mainly.
Joe Elliott was only ever a vice-president and then an associate director and never party to the big decisions passed in the early 90s which had such a devestating effect on the football club. Became a full director and chairman during the tough time when sisu got involved. Elliott's businesses has pumped hundreds of thousands into the club, youth and reserves mainly.
Joe Elliott was only ever a vice-president and then an associate director and never party to the big decisions passed in the early 90s which had such a devestating effect on the football club. Became a full director and chairman during the tough time when sisu got involved. Elliott's businesses has pumped hundreds of thousands into the club, youth and reserves mainly.
Because your criticism is unjustified and without foundation. And in my opinion just to be different. The bloke has done nothing he hasn't said he would do.Not at all. Just can't fathom why he's so bothered about criticism?
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