I cant remember anyone saying that about Moore based on pre season performances.
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@shmmeee was having a meltdown every preseason game.
In most of Moore’s detractors defence, he did look quite dodgy and that was our first impression of him.
Another reason us all to not get too carried away in preseason. It’s about fitness, gelling the team and developing the style of play. Results are not that important here.
Burge was in space?Have we learnt nothing about judging people from friendly performances? Simon Moore was the worst GK on the planet last summer.
Moors v Christians? Think we all did.
Wasn't it supposed to be sorted this weekI hope it’s not Panzo TBH, not with Doyle already in.
We need another center half so why not?I hope it’s not Panzo TBH, not with Doyle already in.
We need another center half so why not?
One inexperienced CB is manageable, two is asking too much IMO. I’m hoping the next one is more a JCS type of loan where they’ve been around a little bit.
One inexperienced CB is manageable, two is asking too much IMO. I’m hoping the next one is more a JCS type of loan where they’ve been around a little bit.
Not taking issue with your point, but where is the boundary between experienced and inexperienced? Maatsen came to us last year with a similar level of experience as Doyle. Both young and with a year in league 1 as well as international football. I know people's opinions of Maatsen differ, but I think the consensus was that he was good enough for the championship.
JCS had some championship experience, although hardly played towards the end of his spell with Birmingham, so I'm not sure how valuable that was?
We need another center half so why not?
If this next loan target is Panzo I think it's important we push for an option to sign him permanently (which I'm hoping is what we are doing at the minute). Otherwise next summer we will be in the same position again with no left sided centre back on the books.
Why would Forest agree to that when they only signed him in January?
Could be same reasons the other clubs moved him on, that’s he’s not going to be good enough for them in the short or long term
He was signed when they were a Championship club. Forest fans seem to think he has looked decent in the brief glimpses they have seen of him and say Cooper likes him. Realistically he isn't going to play in the Premier League I would imagine but if he went on loan and played in the Championship for a season you could see how his value would increase. Skybluebeliever seemed to suggest we are pushing for an option on whoever this target is but sounds like the selling club may not be keen on this. This could certainly apply to Panzo.Why would Forest agree to that when they only signed him in January?
I wouldn’t mind them both in to compete but I’d be worried about a Hyam Panzo Doyle back three, and as they’re both left footed you couldn’t really do a Panzo Fadz Doyle back line.
He was signed when they were a Championship club.
There has been no credible link noAre we convinced that this is happening then
I would be happy with Panzo. Would leave us with:
LCB: Doyle, Panzo
CB: Fadz, Hyam
RCB: Hyam, Rose
Good depth. Isn't this what people wanted?
We wouldn't have to play Dabo or Bidwell at CB like we did last year.
That's not really strengthening the defence really is it? Some kids as back up does help with depth but that's about it. If anything our starting defence would be weaker than last season with JCS gone, who wasn't even that crash hot in the first place anyway.
Depends...
Swansea fans slated Gyokeres and he hardly played for them. Birmingham fans laughed at us signing JCS. Charlton fans said Maatsen will struggle with the step up to the championship.
Just because they arrive with doubts against them doesn't mean anything. Our coaching team have a strong track record of improving players rapidly.
We can't really say it's stronger/weaker until they've been given a fair crack at it.
Are we convinced that this is happening then
Depends...
Swansea fans slated Gyokeres and he hardly played for them. Birmingham fans laughed at us signing JCS. Charlton fans said Maatsen will struggle with the step up to the championship.
Just because they arrive with doubts against them doesn't mean anything. Our coaching team have a strong track record of improving players rapidly.
We can't really say it's stronger/weaker until they've been given a fair crack at it.
We can’t afford significant improvement. Players like that Collins who was at Burnley are going for 20 million quidThis Gyökeres copy paste argument is getting a bit boring.
The point is, our defence is probably the weakest area of the pitch. We need first team quality in there and at the moment we are signing essentially development players. Whether they are slightly better or slightly worse isn't really the point as we need significant improvement.
That's not really strengthening the defence really is it? Some kids as back up does help with depth but that's about it. If anything our starting defence would be weaker than last season with JCS gone, who wasn't even that crash hot in the first place anyway.
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