Josh Eccles 2022/23 (1 Viewer)

Hobo · Aug 1, 2022

Had a good pre season. People saying he was good cover for Dabo even though not his natural position.

At Sunderland struggled. But in a team that was misfiring and struggling to find a flow. Didnt make any drastic errors just struggled.

Dabo benefitted from formation change and support of Tavares. That wouldn't have worked from the start.

I hope we don't beat the lad with a stick and write him off after one game (which our fans have form for). Playing in front of 40 plus thousand was a new experience for him and he will be better for it.

I think Josh Eccles is a great prospect for us. I think he can break through as a midfielder and as a RWB and FB.

No player delivers every week. But players like Josh Eccles and Kasey Palmer need support and time and a run of games to find their feet.

I feel our fans can be a bit brutal on social media and live off snap shots rather than look at the bigger picture.

fatso · Aug 1, 2022

Not his best game yesterday, (not the only one though) but he'll learn from the experience. Playing him at LWB isn't doing him any favours.
He's a great player to have on the bench, and would be cover for Sheaf, and would probably be a better option than Allen if we need to see a game out.

Deleted member 5849 · Aug 1, 2022

fatso said:
Playing him at LWB isn't doing him any favours.

Good job we're not. I know he was bad yesterday, but he still stayed on the right!

Sky Blue Pete · Aug 1, 2022

Hell be an important squad player this season for sure

fatso · Aug 1, 2022

Deleted member 5849 said:
Good job we're not. I know he was bad yesterday, but he still stayed on the right!

Oops

Deleted member 5849 · Aug 1, 2022

fatso said:
Oops

tbf, Hobo started it off wanting to turn him into a LWB!

HuckerbyDublinWhelan · Aug 1, 2022

We’re not writing him off. It was clear after 45 mins he was having an off game though. Whilst we shouldn’t write him off. We shouldn’t just stick with him for the whole time because he’s young.

hes a good youngster, but yesterday showed he isn’t quite ready yet

Sky Blue Pete · Aug 1, 2022

HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
We’re not writing him off. It was clear after 45 mins he was having an off game though. Whilst we shouldn’t write him off. We shouldn’t just stick with him for the whole time because he’s young.

hes a good youngster, but yesterday showed he isn’t quite ready yet

We need to be more patient with our young players as they progress

Hobo · Aug 1, 2022

Deleted member 5849 said:
tbf, Hobo started it off wanting to turn him into a LWB!

Did I ? Must have been a brain fart or did I mix up his opponent.? The lad he was up against whoever he was - was good. I knew Eccles was on the right even if I didnt say it appologies for any confusion

HuckerbyDublinWhelan · Aug 1, 2022

Sky Blue Pete said:
We need to be more patient with our young players as they progress

Which is fine, but ultimately it’s the team that matters. Eccles had a torrid time against Clarke,

we were patient with Turner and we nearly destroyed him early on.

Deleted member 5849 · Aug 1, 2022

Hobo said:
Did I ? Must have been a brain fart or did I mix up his opponent.? The lad he was up against whoever he was - was good. I knew Eccles was on the right even if I didnt say it appologies for any confusion

Hobo said:
I think he can break through as a midfielder and as a LWB and FB.

I mean, that's confidence in the lad I suppose

Deleted member 5849 · Aug 1, 2022

HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
Which is fine, but ultimately it’s the team that matters. Eccles had a torrid time against Clarke,

we were patient with Turner and we nearly destroyed him early on.

Alternatively we made him by giving him the experience.

HuckerbyDublinWhelan · Aug 1, 2022

Deleted member 5849 said:
Alternatively we made him by giving him the experience.

I’m not sure we did. When we eventually took him out he was shot, we then brought him back slowly - which ultimately allowed him to get his confidence back.

skybluegod · Aug 1, 2022

Eccles will be a good player this year. But he was poor yesterday. Yes out of position but we had zero joy going forward down the right yesterday as he made the wrong decisions constantly. He'll learn for it and have better games.

CovLis86 · Aug 1, 2022

He just looked that yard out of position, and second too slow in reactions. But he's young, first game of the season, we never really did truly click into gear yesterday so think that could be the worst he will ever be, you'd take an off game only being that bad. If everyone else performed it would have helped cover it up too.

Hope he stays fit and gets more time and experience to keep improving.

Nick · Aug 1, 2022

I like how him and Godden have been pretty humble and honest. I hope he gets a go in his prefered positon though for his confidence as he has looked much better in the middle of the park dictating the play.

Hopefully we don't ruin his confidence by playing him out of position too much. In League One maybe but in the Championship small mistakes get punished.

HuckerbyDublinWhelan · Aug 1, 2022

Eccles has a lot of talent. Criticism of him yesterday shouldn’t be mistaken for “throwing him on the scrap heap”

needs a run out in midfield though

Sky_Blue_Dreamer · Aug 1, 2022

Nick said:
I like how him and Godden have been pretty humble and honest. I hope he gets a go in his prefered positon though for his confidence as he has looked much better in the middle of the park dictating the play.

Hopefully we don't ruin his confidence by playing him out of position too much. In League One maybe but in the Championship small mistakes get punished.

I fear they may do an Isaac Osbourne on him and maybe Burroughs.

Deleted member 5849 · Aug 1, 2022

Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
I fear they may do an Isaac Osbourne on him and maybe Burroughs.

Barry Quinn is the classic example.

slowpoke · Aug 1, 2022

Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
I fear they may do an Isaac Osbourne on him and maybe Burroughs.

Half the fuckers on here won’t have a clue who Isacc Osbourne is or was.

rob9872 · Aug 1, 2022

I've never understood the clamour or the criticism tbh. He's looked okay against poor preseason opposition but needs to play regular football and I'd get him out on loan.

I don't know why some assume he'll simply step straight into the level when many others we had who even did well at L1 struggled to bridge the gap to this level. He might be good, he might not but looked well out of his depth yesterday and was partly at fault for the goal, although Moore should've stayed on his line.

As with all players I'll support him, but I think if we get propper cover he can go and play to get some L1 experience.

PUSB-We_are_going_up · Aug 1, 2022

Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
I fear they may do an Isaac Osbourne on him and maybe Burroughs.

Burroughs is a WB though so it wouldnt be the same situation to play him at WB

PUSB-We_are_going_up · Aug 1, 2022

If we play him in his actual position then I think he will show that he is in fact ready, he is no way a starting RWB, may be good cover in that position, but we shouldn’t be playing him there when we have J.Burroughs and Lusala coming through who are specialists in that position

Hobo · Aug 1, 2022

Deleted member 5849 said:
I mean, that's confidence in the lad I suppose

Okay guilty but genuine brain fart need to proof read better

HuckerbyDublinWhelan · Aug 1, 2022

slowpoke said:
Half the fuckers on here won’t have a clue who Isacc Osbourne is or was.

I liked Osbourne, always remember him being one of my first youth development projects on CM01/02 when he was 15

junglej13 · Aug 1, 2022

Didn't have a great game yesterday but has never let anyone down before and generally played very well. He isn't a right wing back and I hope we don't try and turn him into one.

shmmeee · Aug 1, 2022

Right back to DM is a fairly well trodden development path. Gus did it for a start. Allows a younger player to make mistakes in a less critical area of the pitch.

Hobo · Aug 1, 2022

Like any goal conceded it is not one persons fault.
Bidwell, cross came in too easily, Moore went walkabout, Hyam should have read cross better was underneath it too much. Eccles should have challenged more.

Sunderland coaches will no doubt pick things apart and highlight three players who should have prevented Gyokeres even getting an opportunity to cut in and shoot.

larry_david · Aug 1, 2022

HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
I liked Osbourne, always remember him being one of my first youth development projects on CM01/02 when he was 15

He was one of my fav players purely because he was a beast on champo. Same with Stuart Giddings

Was he ever any good in real life?

HuckerbyDublinWhelan · Aug 1, 2022

larry_david said:
He was one of my fav players purely because he was a beast on champo. Same with Stuart Giddings

Was he ever any good in real life?

I liked Osbourne, but they ended shipping him to RWB and he just declined

larry_david · Aug 1, 2022

As for Eccles. He's actually older than you think, but MR has always rated him. This is how breakthrough season, depending on no injuries.

MR said at the end of the season something along the lines of, he can be as good as he wants to be, but he needs to decide what we wants to do. Suggested to me a potential lack of confidence?

Evo1883 · Aug 1, 2022

Play him next to sheaf and get hamer behind the front men whilst o hare is out and palmer isn't fit

slowpoke · Aug 1, 2022

Out of position yesterday and he’s certainly not a Dabo type of rwb, won’t see the best of him until he has a run in midfield.

CCFC54321 · Aug 1, 2022

Just feel when I see Eccles play there’s a good player for the future but always appears to play within himself.

Hobo · Aug 1, 2022

CCFC54321 said:
Just feel when I see Eccles play there’s a good player for the future but always appears to play within himself.

And some players do that all the time. Just play it safe and coast through games. Sometimes you need players to be brave and take the occassional risk.

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