It’s the sane symptom though isn’t it? Securing cheap wage signings m
Swap Hillsner for Tavares then - good move or not?
Where have you been ? That’s how it works now puts value on him as for injuries that’s an occupational hazard unfortunately. Fingers crossed he’ll be fine.
No ideaHilssner’s wages have cost us £750,000-what has Tavares’?
Tavares and a 3 year deal? Good or bad?
It’s probably peanutsNo idea
On cheap wages to be 4th or 5th striker, absolutely fine.
Better than big money wages on has beens like Waghorn, Kane and Kelly.
So you just put someone on the payroll who is no good and never will be at this level as they are cheap
it’s a bizarre argument - how’s it better than superior players like Waghorn anyway
Understand the point here, don't personally think he's good enough and four years seems too much. However all football squads are full of players below the level (bar City). If he's good value for what he is, and he's happy to sign, then possibly not as bad as it seems.
So you just put someone on the payroll who is no good and never will be at this level as they are cheap
it’s a bizarre argument - how’s it better than superior players like Waghorn anyway
Waghorn has been a dreadful signing.
That's not quite the defence you think it is.
In hindsight- definitely not at the time
Eccles is regarded by those who matter and work with him every day as a real prospect who can go higher in the game, I think they are correct, do you respect their opinion ?
As length of contracts go we have had years of sisu giving one year and two year contracts leaving the manager present and in fairness previous with a juggling act every summer, we have I think it’s eleven out of contract this summer that’s ridiculous most will probably move on at no great loss but it’s too many hopefully with the new owner they can be replaced and they will need to be with better.
Suppose if you only judge it on the most recent season (due to his age) it's a very different picture.He may be but 4 years is laughable for someone whose started 16 league games in 4 years
He's 22, and I don't think he's strung two consecutive good performances together. What have you seen that makes you say that?Eccles is regarded by those who matter and work with him every day as a real prospect who can go higher in the game, I think they are correct, do you respect their opinion ?
As length of contracts go we have had years of sisu giving one year and two year contracts leaving the manager present and in fairness previous with a juggling act every summer, we have I think it’s eleven out of contract this summer that’s ridiculous most will probably move on at no great loss but it’s too many hopefully with the new owner they can be replaced and they will need to be with better.
Excellent point, and I would add a player who I think Eccles is just as good as at this age and went on to great things, Jordan Henderson.To be fair when Gerrard first started getting into the Bin dippers team he was injured quite a lot, they put it down to growing pains he didn't turn out too bad...well for Liverpool anyway
In hindsight- definitely not at the time
Well that’s your opinion and you are entitled to it but it doesn’t count that’s the managers department, think I’ll go with his opinion.He's 22, and I don't think he's strung two consecutive good performances together. What have you seen that makes you say that?
Long contracts don't necessarily = good decisioning
The club has had a game changing 48 hours new owner confirmed and that ‘orrible arse Fisher jettisoned out the club yet what attracts arses on here a 22 year old prospect getting a 4 year contract you couldn’t make it up.Jeez! Bet he snapped their hand off! Squad player at best who can fill a couple of positions and do a job when required is all I’ve seen up till now. Hope for an improvement going forward-plenty of time to do so (4 years).
I know there are those who thought Waghorn was Messi like against Wrexham, but he has been a truly disastrous signing. Two goals in 38 appearances and one of those was a penalty. And it's not like the evidence wasn't there before we signed him. Five goals in 32 in his last season at Derby.So you just put someone on the payroll who is no good and never will be at this level as they are cheap
it’s a bizarre argument - how’s it better than superior players like Waghorn anyway
Yep fair. Also think it’s ok question it. I don’t per se think it’s a mistake as he can do a job for us, but I don’t see much to say he’s going to play at a higher level.Well that’s your opinion and you are entitled to it but it doesn’t count that’s the managers department, think I’ll go with his opinion.
So this “squad player at best” was selected for the Championship Team of the month in October playing out of position. The same month Gyokeres was also selected as the striker. Loads on here couldn’t believe we had paid money for Gyokeres 18 months ago. Perhaps those who are employed to train and manage the team have a better understanding than us as to what and who may be a success.Jeez! Bet he snapped their hand off! Squad player at best who can fill a couple of positions and do a job when required is all I’ve seen up till now. Hope for an improvement going forward-plenty of time to do so (4 years).
So you just put someone on the payroll who is no good and never will be at this level as they are cheap
it’s a bizarre argument - how’s it better than superior players like Waghorn anyway
Not the point. Eccles is at the level and is only 22
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The level we are playing football at, the Championshiphe’s at what level?
Well that’s your opinion and you are entitled to it but it doesn’t count that’s the managers department, think I’ll go with his opinion.
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