Apparently O'Brien had a big fall out with the managerI think had he had more competition behind him, he’d have lost his place long before now. Addai wasn’t going to offer that and imo was purely stepped up to make up the numbers on the bench and very last resort
Like last season, we had keepers rotating after each made a balls up or two. We’ve not had that option this year
Would be interesting to know why obrien has been unavailable for so much of the season? Don’t think that’s ever been shared has it? And on that subject I do think he would have been crucified if he’d made the same errors Burge has, but then again he’s not got the protective ‘Cov kid’ status
I didn’t agree with the mid game ironic cheers towards Burge but I can’t defend that he’s not had the best of seasons
Said last year he’d found his level
Not just Max dont know of many players Grendel has a good word for.It was the improvement you didn’t think he was capable of. Pretty sure bakayoko will embarrass you too
It was the improvement you didn’t think he was capable of. Pretty sure bakayoko will embarrass you too
Adulation ha and for the worst players!!!! Ha ha haAgain it’s an improvement from a bar set so abysmally low - your adulation for the worst players we have is strange
Wont bother with him he doesn't like anyone even himself.Adulation ha and for the worst players!!!! Ha ha ha
Wont bother with him he doesn't like anyone even himself.
He was league 2 keeper of the season. Did you see de gea the last few games
Don't know about other players mentioned but Fleck was made the best offer the club could afford and we really tried to keep him
Unfortunately he got a much bigger offer from Sheffield United
It’s tricky to offer contracts when the budget for the following year is unknownI've heard the contractual offer for Fleck was double than what we offered in terms of wages. It's long gone from my memory what the quoted figure was but it was certainly a decent package, especially considering Sheffield United were a League One side at the time. But it would be interesting to note when in the season the deal was actually offered as like I said, we had a horrible habit of letting contracts run out and only offering extensions at the end of the season - yet both the club and the fanbase still somehow ended up being shocked that players such as Fleck etc. were pinched, despite the club who offering far more lucrative contracts. In form players will always receive a better offer somewhere else (unless you're a PSG etc.) so sometimes that's football, however I'm inclined to believe there's a little more to our bad luck than that during that period.
Speculating slightly as I haven't looked at the timeline in any detail admittedly but it wouldn't surprise me if the issues regarding running players contracts down during this period was at least partly due to the constant changes in management and at board level during that turbulent period. It's difficult to tie down players on long term contracts when there's little to no consistency at a club.
It’s tricky to offer contracts when the budget for the following year is unknown
Budgetary restrictions is obviously the primary reason, there's no denying that. However, to blame that many players departing on the budget and ignore all other variables is slightly naive in my opinion.
Putting budgetary restrictions aside, I'm more interested in focusing on the timing - i.e. when the contracts were put on the table. If they were literally left to the expiry date of the players' contracts then why is this? Hence why it's of my opinion that the constant changes at both board and managerial level in part contributed to their release. Yes it's tricky to offers contracts when the budget for the following year is unknown, but similarly it's tricky to offer contracts when you have no idea who the next manager is going to be, or who is going to sign off on said contracts. I don't know the full details so like I said it's just a thought. I personally just find it hard to believe the reason that all those players we let go for free was purely budgetary, when it actually would've been in the financial interest of the club in the long term to hang on to players such as Westwood, Gunnarsson etc. Hindsight is a wonderful thing though isn't it!
I've heard the contractual offer for Fleck was double than what we offered in terms of wages. It's long gone from my memory what the quoted figure was but it was certainly a decent package, especially considering Sheffield United were a League One side at the time. But it would be interesting to note when in the season the deal was actually offered as like I said, we had a horrible habit of letting contracts run out and only offering extensions at the end of the season - yet both the club and the fanbase still somehow ended up being shocked that players such as Fleck etc. were pinched, despite the club who offering far more lucrative contracts. In form players will always receive a better offer somewhere else (unless you're a PSG etc.) so sometimes that's football, however I'm inclined to believe there's a little more to our bad luck than that during that period.
Speculating slightly as I haven't looked at the timeline in any detail admittedly but it wouldn't surprise me if the issues regarding running players contracts down during this period was at least partly due to the constant changes in management and at board level during that turbulent period. It's difficult to tie down players on long term contracts when there's little to no consistency at a club.
Mowbray said at one of the sponsors days that Championship were offering four times what we could, despite an offer that would have made him our best paid player.I've heard the contractual offer for Fleck was double than what we offered in terms of wages. It's long gone from my memory what the quoted figure was but it was certainly a decent package, especially considering Sheffield United were a League One side at the time. But it would be interesting to note when in the season the deal was actually offered as like I said, we had a horrible habit of letting contracts run out and only offering extensions at the end of the season - yet both the club and the fanbase still somehow ended up being shocked that players such as Fleck etc. were pinched, despite the club who offering far more lucrative contracts. In form players will always receive a better offer somewhere else (unless you're a PSG etc.) so sometimes that's football, however I'm inclined to believe there's a little more to our bad luck than that during that period.
Speculating slightly as I haven't looked at the timeline in any detail admittedly but it wouldn't surprise me if the issues regarding running players contracts down during this period was at least partly due to the constant changes in management and at board level during that turbulent period. It's difficult to tie down players on long term contracts when there's little to no consistency at a club.
Many players run contracts down at many clubs. If anything I’d say the club has significantly improved in this area
Fleck was on a longer contract here than most and signed an extension but only wanted one year
I agree the club has definitely improved. In the last two years the only player of minor significance that we released was George Thomas. But even that could've been avoided couldn't it? 4 managers featuring throughout one season would've surely disrupted any potential contract discussions throughout the season, even before he received any significant interest. Sometimes like you say that's football and it would be wrong to generalise every CCFC departure on frequent manager and board level departures. But in my opinion it's certainly played it's part.
With your track record I'm sure this will come to fruitionDon't be surprised if Fleck is back at Cov in the next 18 months.
We had a fee for Thomas and most fans wanted rid of him at the start of the last season
All of the examples you sight are players who left to go to a club in a much better position than CCFC, most probably on improved terms. The end.I agree the club has definitely improved. In the last two years the only player of minor significance that we released was George Thomas. But even that could've been avoided couldn't it? 4 managers featuring throughout one season would've surely disrupted any potential contract discussions throughout the season, even before he received any significant interest. Sometimes like you say that's football and it would be wrong to generalise every CCFC departure on frequent manager and board level departures. But in my opinion it's certainly played it's part.
Dujon Sterling was his player of the season which I think is a good shoutQuestion for Grendel Baka or Chaplin? I think Baka has somemhing about him so his criticism is a tad harsh.
Also who is your best player Grendel - I think people just don't see you praise many players?
I think Hyam overall been our best player, Willis good season, Kelly been good too - mentions to Bright and Thomas too.
All of the examples you sight are players who left to go to a club in a much better position than CCFC, most probably on improved terms. The end.
But the key is if we’re not putting an offer in place at least a year before their contract expires then it opens the door to losing them for nothing. If you offered a contract 12-18 months in advance and they turn it down there’s the opportunity for a sale to take a fee.
De Gea is just trying to muster a move to Real Madrid.And another mistake by De Gea makes it look more likely that the swap deal for him and Burge will take place.........
Ffs!Burge the great shot stopper should have done better with the goal today. I'll be told he had no chance with a ball hit straight at him.
He he heAnd another mistake by De Gea makes it look more likely that the swap deal for him and Burge will take place.........
Ha ha. I accept people won't see it that way.Ffs!
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