Keogh (10 Viewers)

Are people missing they offered to cut his wages even though it was his fault he couldn't do his job?

Nick said:

Are people missing they offered to cut his wages even though it was his fault he couldn't do his job?

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Isn't that likely to weaken their case. How can they claim they sacked him for gross misconduct or endangering lives or any of the other things in their statement when they were prepared to keep employing him if they lowered his wages.

Nick said:

Because the other 2 can still do their job.

There's the difference between them.

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But that isn't the reason they've stated for sacking him.

Travs said:

Statement from the Club: "As we have said from the outset, (Derby County FC) will not tolerate any of its players or staff behaving in a manner which puts themselves, their colleagues, and members of the general public at risk of injury or worse, or which brings the club into disrepute....."

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If that is the case all three have to be dismissed. On those grounds there is far more reason to sack the other two.

Also, if he can prove that they offered him a reduced deal and then sacked him after he refused the reason given isn't true.

I'm not saying that they may not have grounds to dismiss him, but the reasons they are giving publicly are clearly false.

I'd guess there's more to it

No one agrees with his actions but this is clearly age discrimination and he will have a good case in any tribunal. Derby have behaved appallingly in treating him differently to the other 2 that have broken the law.

It's clear to see this is because hes injured long term and he has no resale value.


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stupot07 said:

No one agrees with his actions but this is clearly age discrimination and he will have a good case in any tribunal. Derby have behaved appallingly in treating him differently to the other 2 that have broken the law.

It's clear to see this is because hes injured long term and he has no resale value.


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We don’t actually know whet happened though

now I’m not saying this did happen but consider this scenario

Two young players very pissed decide not to drive home but use the transport on offer

The captain - their leader - says to them to screw that and get the cars out and let’s race off to another night club

they take the leaders word and decide this is what they should do or the overbearing captain will make their lives hell going forward

David O'Day said:

Really? They will say why weren't the other 2 given the same punishment. If it was me my union would have a field day. Him being injured has nothing to do with it. There reasoning is gross misconduct bringing the club into disrepute which Lawrence and Bennett are equally guilty of.

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It isn't relevant mate. If it was found that they hadn't applied their policy in the case of the other two it doesn't mean they shouldn't have for Keogh.
We don't know what it says in Keogh's contract either.

chiefdave said:

Isn't that likely to weaken their case. How can they claim they sacked him for gross misconduct or endangering lives or any of the other things in their statement when they were prepared to keep employing him if they lowered his wages.

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Petrocelli - still alive and practising.

Nick said:

How come people are so desperate to defend him?

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The whole thing stinks. He deserves to be sacked and so do the other two.

CJ_covblaze said:

The whole thing stinks. He deserves to be sacked and so do the other two.

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Doubt you would care if he didn't used to play for us.

CJ_covblaze said:

The whole thing stinks. He deserves to be sacked and so do the other two.

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Agreed. All or nothing.

fernandopartridge said:

It isn't relevant mate. If it was found that they hadn't applied their policy in the case of the other two it doesn't mean they shouldn't have for Keogh.
We don't know what it says in Keogh's contract either.

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It is though as it is punishment for the same incident. Disciplinary actions have to be fair and equal. If he had something in his contract then that is a different story

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Everyone has gross misconduct clauses in their contract, he breached his terms, insurance kicked in to be able to pay him 50% of his weekly wage of £24k, so he could have seen out his remaining contract on over £500k per year, he needs a reality check and should have ignored his lawyer and agents advice.
Each employee (and that’s what they are) has to have their own case dealt with and that’s what the club have done.

I don’t buy this, he has played hundreds of games loyalty BS, he has also earns millions for that. He was club captain and took players drinking, sat in a car with someone pissed and didn’t wear his belt, I hope he recovers well enough to have a good life and maybe play again.

have a reality check on how many on this site and across the uk will be paid by their employers 50% of their wage when they committed an act against their employer and then cannot work for two years, when you find them, stay with that company for life.

chiefdave said:

Isn't that likely to weaken their case. How can they claim they sacked him for gross misconduct or endangering lives or any of the other things in their statement when they were prepared to keep employing him if they lowered his wages.

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You don't know what's in their policies, it may be that their policy is that players who can't play can be offered a revised deal to account for it and if they don't accept are dismissed.

How are people on here and Twitter etc. Saying things like "its clearly age discrimination" or "Derby are a disgrace sacking just Keogh and not the other two"

When will people realise that they dont have the full facts in cases like this? Although it may seem a certain way, it doesnt make it a fact. The whole social media witch hunt stuff with everything in society gets on my tits. People dont seem to bw able to actually think about the whole picture but just what someone on Twitter said or one particular media outlet.