Your first line is fucking idioticI think it’s a more urgent problem than perhaps you do. We’ve gone from people urging people to wait and let justice take its course etc back then, to people saying the moment has passed now.
For the avoidance of doubt, I think football authorities should at the very least be threatening stronger sanctions to clubs whose fans racially abuse players, so the clubs in turn take a harder line when this happens. As I said earlier in this thread, Sheffield Wednesday don’t appear to have done anything.
I think it’s a more urgent problem than perhaps you do. We’ve gone from people urging people to wait and let justice take its course etc back then, to people saying the moment has passed now.
For the avoidance of doubt, I think football authorities should at the very least be threatening stronger sanctions to clubs whose fans racially abuse players, so the clubs in turn take a harder line when this happens. As I said earlier in this thread, Sheffield Wednesday don’t appear to have done anything.
I thought it was the other way around “How’s Dion settling?” “Oh fine” “Have you seen his cock? It’s magnificent” sort of thing.
If you’re still bored or lonely, go back to the Ukraine thread, we’re trying to have an actual discussion hereShould we have have played behind closed doors when we did nothing about chanting the support of a women beater and laughing at the victim out of interest?
I’m glad I didn’t know the full lyrics to this last Saturday.‘Latibeaudiere, Latibeaudiere, he’s got the biggest dick in the Championship’
Oddly a discussion means an exchange of viewsIf you’re still bored or lonely, go back to the Ukraine thread, we’re trying to have an actual discussion here
How do you not just snap if it's still that often? I know you obviously have self restraint and whilst boiling inside, be nothing new etc but in all seriousness not just occasionally knock someone out? And I don't mean to make light of or compare, but as someone overweight if I was getting called a fat wanker on a daily basis I'd ride some of it out but eventually break and go berserk. Fair play for being better than that, but just can't imagine being that placid 100% of the time.carry on as usual with a sizeable amount of people excusing it and even more cracking on behind closed doors and in a safe setting I reckon
I’ve been in and around at least 5 instances of racist abuse since the last post on this thread before yours.
Dion got several comments from several people in football. Even Alex Ferguson made a comment about it. It was deemed as acceptable in them days.I thought it was the other way around “How’s Dion settling?” “Oh fine” “Have you seen his cock? It’s magnificent” sort of thing.
You will never understand a position you're not in like this.How do you not just snap if it's still that often? I know you obviously have self restraint and whilst boiling inside, be nothing new etc but in all seriousness not just occasionally knock someone out? And I don't mean to make light of or compare, but as someone overweight if I was getting called a fat wanker on a daily basis I'd ride some of it out but eventually break and go berserk. Fair play for being better than that, but just can't imagine being that placid 100% of the time.
Ah some classic whatabouttery, referring to a completely different issue 14 years agoShould we have have played behind closed doors when we did nothing about chanting the support of a women beater and laughing at the victim out of interest?
Yeh it’s exactly like being called fat being overweightHow do you not just snap if it's still that often? I know you obviously have self restraint and whilst boiling inside, be nothing new etc but in all seriousness not just occasionally knock someone out? And I don't mean to make light of or compare, but as someone overweight if I was getting called a fat wanker on a daily basis I'd ride some of it out but eventually break and go berserk. Fair play for being better than that, but just can't imagine being that placid 100% of the time.
This would be a bizarre talking point even if you were serious, but as you show on here time and time again, you’re not looking for a discussion, you’re looking to settle scores and fill the lonely hours in the shedOddly a discussion means an exchange of views
So I maintain your notion of closing a ground down when a section of fans show abusive behaviour in any form is preposterous - as is that certain football fans are somehow genetically conditioned to show certain types of prejudice versus others
Happened with a Leeds player last year and he came out and said it’s offensive stop it. And he basically got told to fuck off and they cracked on anyway.
Yep it’s a little madThat Latibeaudiere song def has to go, just embarrassing ourselves even before you consider what's happened with Palmer recently.
You thick twat, you're repeating exactly what I said!! I said its not comparable but ifvit happened every day it would anger me and therefore how does he put up with something much worse and not react. As usual you're looking for a fight where there isn't one!Yeh it’s exactly like being called fat being overweight
This would be a bizarre talking point even if you were serious, but as you show on here time and time again, you’re not looking for a discussion, you’re looking to settle scores and fill the lonely hours in the shed
Another late night for you by the looks of it
I think it’s a more urgent problem than perhaps you do. We’ve gone from people urging people to wait and let justice take its course etc back then, to people saying the moment has passed now.
For the avoidance of doubt, I think football authorities should at the very least be threatening stronger sanctions to clubs whose fans racially abuse players, so the clubs in turn take a harder line when this happens. As I said earlier in this thread, Sheffield Wednesday don’t appear to have done anything.
Boss put you on the horoscope page again?
You seem smart enough to know you've just proven his point for him. Confusing.
Bit of an unnecessary insult but I’ll skip past it. I know your intent here was to empathise. But paralleling racism with being insulted for being overweight, and how you’d respond, misses the mark entirely and frankly, it’s a false equivalence.You thick twat, you're repeating exactly what I said!! I said its not comparable but ifvit happened every day it would anger me and therefore how does he put up with something much worse and not react. As usual you're looking for a fight where there isn't one!
Can we just park Grendel in the ‘sad crank’ bin and move on?
He spent a year hammering someone about an apparent mental health ‘jibe’ and the Tom Lockyer thread has him telling a recovering alcoholic he should hit the booze to be a better person.
The guy just wants an argument continually.
and now back on the thread….
Bit of an unnecessary insult but I’ll skip past it. I know your intent here was to empathise. But paralleling racism with being insulted for being overweight, and how you’d respond, misses the mark entirely and frankly, it’s a false equivalence.
- What you’ve unintentionally done by sharing how you’d respond, is suggest someone should reach a breaking point and potentially respond with violence which places an unfair burden on the individual. It sort of implies the responsibility for addressing racism falls on the victim themselves know what I mean?
- calling someone ‘placid’ for not responding violentl can make them question their response to oppression. Actually having to endure racism your whole life and choosing non-violent responses is a pretty big sign of strength/resilience, not passivity.
- re your analogy…racism is rarely about obvious insults that can be easily called out, it’s more often than now cloaked in a weak “deniability”, making it harder to confront without being accused of ‘looking for a fight’.
And about the ‘deniability’ of racism versus being called ‘fat’: The former is a systemic issue that’s often subtly expressed and defended under the guise of ‘jokes’ or ‘cultural misunderstandings’.
Ffs can you not read? The point is I didn't make the parallel, that's how you interpreted it. I literally said I wasn't comparing it and used an example of something much less and how that would wind me or most up to demonstrate his self restraint!!!And I don't mean to make light of or compare
Oh okayyyy….”hey here’s an analogy that’s definitely not meant to compare the situations but im going to use here to show how I’d react in an…um, completely unrelated situation”Ffs can you not read? The point is I didn't make the parallel, that's how you interpreted it. I literally said I wasn't comparing it and used an example of something much less and how that would wind me or most up to demonstrate his self restraint!!!
... arrogant in the extreme
Sad days indeed.Should we have have played behind closed doors when we did nothing about chanting the support of a women beater and laughing at the victim out of interest?
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