Not exactly, he was asking what the emotional arguments were, I think he was pretending to be ignorant for comedic event.
Not that surprising considering he blocks people on twitter for not agreeing with him.
Not exactly, he was asking what the emotional arguments were, I think he was pretending to be ignorant for comedic event.Maton tweeting that there is no emotional argument for the academy to stay.
Yes but they are the enemy of sisu, which adds to the appealThis should not come as a surprise to anyone. From the moment the Ricoh was sold to Wasps, the Council have got in bed with them. They had to, because if for anyone reason Wasps fail, the council end up looking like complete idiots.
The only thing that amazes me is why anyone who has CCFC at heart goes to support Wasps. The one small lever we've got as fans in all this is to say that if Wasps go ahead with this plan, then as fans of Coventry City we will actively boycott them.
Don't fall for all of the "we're happy to work with the club" stuff, because it's utter rubbish. Wasps could have built this facility elsewhere, but they chose the Higgs Centre because it was the easiest and cheapest option for them - much like buying the Ricoh. It helps, of course, that the Council, the CSF, and the Higgs Charity have fallen over themselves to make it all happen.
Anyone who thinks that Wasps give a toss about CCFC needs to pause and look at the overwhelming evidence here; if you support Wasps then you are supporting an organisation that has gone out of it's way to permanently harm Coventry City Football Club.
Of course it would have been relevant and on many levels. Even if we're heading for JR3 it would be relevant to the case. They could say that we stood up in the meeting and pointed out where it contravenes the original planning approval and was ignored. All they've got now is that we stood up in the meeting and said a load of stuff that isn't relevant in any way shape or form to the application itself. Nothing he said had to be taken into consideration. Going back to the conditions on the original application approval would have at least been one run further up the ladder not one step down. A complete waste of time even attending. It was PR and nothing else IMO.
Wasps comment “We are pleased with the outcome of today’s meeting and will be engaging in the next steps requested by the Planning Committee. We look forward to resolving the conditions imposed to move the process forward. “We understand the sensitivities regarding the location of the training base. As previously covered, we have offered CCFC’s Academy use of the indoor kicking barn facility on a commercial basis during set periods of the week and are keen to hold discussions with the football club about how this may work. We also remain open to further discussions with CSF and CCFC about any other ways we might be able to assist with the future of the Academy.”
And there isn't. It has been said on here enough what can and can't be used. And it doesn't change just because you don't like who said it.
There's the door is open line... Kicking barn... Check....
People will lap it up.
Predictable.
Wasps comment “We are pleased with the outcome of today’s meeting and will be engaging in the next steps requested by the Planning Committee. We look forward to resolving the conditions imposed to move the process forward. “We understand the sensitivities regarding the location of the training base. As previously covered, we have offered CCFC’s Academy use of the indoor kicking barn facility on a commercial basis during set periods of the week and are keen to hold discussions with the football club about how this may work. We also remain open to further discussions with CSF and CCFC about any other ways we might be able to assist with the future of the Academy.”
Why not take people at face value , instead of interpreting how YOU wish to see it , Not everybody has an alternative calculated action .
Pretty much, then Bruce can have a go at people who just fall for itLet me just rewrite that for them:
"We're delighted that we got planning permission, because it'll be a lot cheaper for us to build here than anywhere else. We'd like to take this opportunity to make some nice noises about the football club, and make some vague, unlikely assurances, because we're a bit nervous that some people might realise that first we took their stadium, and now we've taken their academy. It's important to us that people (especially Coventry City supporters) don't notice this."
Because then id be very gullible.
Are you actually being serious?
Pretty much, then Bruce can have a go at people who just fall for it
is there any surprise they want us to use the kicking barn - guaranteed income for them 3pm-6pm when no one else will want to use it.
£120 ph x 3 hrs = £360 x 5 nights = £1,800 x 52 weeks = £93,600
plus they get to look like the good guys
is there any surprise they want us to use the kicking barn - guaranteed income for them 3pm-6pm when no one else will want to use it.
£120 ph x 3 hrs = £360 x 5 nights = £1,800 x 52 weeks = £93,600
plus they get to look like the good guys
Are you being serious? The fact i can call it before it happens shows how predictable it is.Who Am I having a go at ? My point is it does nt have tobe nasty , they have said the door is open whats wrong with that ?
Not sure if I've ever seen an exact breakdown, the phrase that seems to be used is substantial discount. Where as now renting from Wasps there is to be no discount.What do they pay now ?
Are you being serious? The fact i can call it before it happens shows how predictable it is.
Do you mean where you take everything they say at face value? Of course.You said I was having a go ? Its in our hands to sort a resolution, nobody else's , ............ Over to our illustrious owners for a resolution .
What do they pay now ?
Not sure if I've ever seen an exact breakdown, the phrase that seems to be used is substantial discount. Where as now renting from Wasps there is to be no discount.
They've only been here 10 years - perhaps they need a bit more time to learn how to run a business.Who Am I having a go at ? My point is it does nt have tobe nasty , they have said the door is open whats wrong with that ?
They've only been here 10 years - perhaps they need a bit more time to learn how to run a business.
Do you mean where you take everything they say at face value? Of course.
I'll await people signing in who haven't for a while, who will disappear after.
I'm just glad nobody would have had an issue. Still, you could have been angry either way.
Winner
Maybe you are a little bit naive or just on the wind up.Well I used to take Sisu at face value , still waiting for them to deliver .
They got the help for the letter, where it isn't restricted to 3 minutes and a couple of paragraphs in a paper.Fall over yourself to defend him won't you.
Seriously what is the point on paying out for the advice of an independent advisor who supplies you relevant information to object something and then when you get your thee minutes don't use it?
It's not like you can't find out what is relevant and what isn't. Go on the governments website and it spells it out, hell it was even stated on here when the news broke.
They have the information, they have a three minutes to say something relevant and said something irrelevant and all you can say is I would have been angry anyway instead of asking why you'd turn up and not make a relevant point. He may as well talked about the weather. No doubt you'd still be defending him if he did.
Chris Anderson attended where?Are you saying Chris Anderson attended then? Go on, please categorically state again so that everyone on the forum can read it.
Chris Anderson attended,YES?
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You don't need to even be that good at running a business when you've got Coventry City Council falling over themselves to smooth the path for your move from London.
Maybe you are a little bit naive or just on the wind up.
We're discussing the academy Nick. Please try and get a grip on this. You are saying the missing entity was Wasps, Yes?Chris Anderson attended where?
Sisu had the same choice when they took over CCFC but decided to do it their way. The batter and stress way.
The start of this rot is set firmly with Sisu. People should not forget this when they proportion blame for our demise to the other parties.
They could have effectively owned the Ricoh for less than £15M and Wasps would never have been here.
Seems a bargain now when you take into account loss of revenue, cost of legal fees and now the loss of future incomes from the demise of the academy
Their continued bullying has made enemies and given local authorities, sports organisations and Wasps the reasoning they needed to take advantage of the situation.
The new stadium and academy bluff has come home to roost.[/QUOTE
When could they have bought the ricoh for 15m? They wanted 24m for match day revenue...
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