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oldfiver

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  • Oct 10, 2016
  • #36
Captain Dart said:
I find anything Fisher says to be virtually impossible to believe. Actions speak louder than words.

Read it carefully, Fisher has laid the ground to sell Ryton & sell a player while extending the Ricoh deal on a temporary basis without any certainty of a new site or anything.
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Do we have a player to sell?
 
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oldfiver

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  • Oct 10, 2016
  • #37
fernandopartridge said:
He mentioned institutional investors. Anybody investing in CCFC probably would live in some form of institution.
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He did not say in CCFC he said in the development
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Oct 10, 2016
  • #38
fernandopartridge said:
He mentioned institutional investors. Anybody investing in CCFC probably would live in some form of institution.
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You would have to ask very carefully what any investor expected to get out of a deal.

Hard to imagine it'd be the love of seeing George Thomas's career develop.
 
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oldfiver

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  • Oct 10, 2016
  • #39
Deleted member 5849 said:
You would have to ask very carefully what any investor expected to get out of a deal.

Hard to imagine it'd be the love of seeing George Thomas's career develop.
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See my reply above
 

Captain Dart

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  • Oct 10, 2016
  • #40
oldfiver said:
Do we have a player to sell?
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Willis probably or RCC.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Oct 10, 2016
  • #41
Deleted member 5849 said:
You would have to ask very carefully what any investor expected to get out of a deal.

Hard to imagine it'd be the love of seeing George Thomas's career develop.
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It would be like a Tesco type thing wouldn't it? I wonder how a hotel chain would get involved with the premier inn next door.

I think.wasps got invited into a smaller stadium etc, without it going into a wasps fest I wonder how they planned the funding etc for that.
 

albatross

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2016
  • #42
This well crafted statement which seems to address most of the discussions on this board can obviously be taken two ways, one as an open an honest vision of how they want to move forward or the reasons why nothing is happening due to a political embargo preventing any discussion or development going forward , i.e. a charter to do nothing and point the finger.

I have always said that they they should be judged on what they do , not who they are.

But there are things that make me somewhat skeptical about Tim's mea culpa and new found honesty:

I do find it rather peculiar that first up he chooses to speculate on another companies financial position as the reason as to why they cannot get a deal, even though they are not talking and the accounts seem suggest otherwise(at least for now)

The comparison for the F&B revenues is also quite dislocated and somewhat convenient as it implies that they would have that revenue for the team, not to run the stadium. I would expect that the running costs of a stadium would probably eat up the Highfield Road F&B figures. The Ricoh running costs i understand are North of £1m

Also I don't see how the council can simply block any development , planning laws will simply not allow it. The council cannot block planning applications due to other disputes.

To me it feels like platitudes and a charter to do nothing and point the finger but what do i know. If i am wrong happy to hold up my hands , but as I said earlier, they should be judged by what they do now.
 
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letsallsingtogether

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  • Oct 10, 2016
  • #43
Steve.B50 said:
No, my wife said tea was ready.
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Did she really say "do you want a bite to eat"
 

skybluetony176

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  • Oct 10, 2016
  • #44
Steve.B50 said:
No, my wife said tea was ready.
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What did you have?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Oct 10, 2016
  • #45
albatross said:
i.e. a charter to do nothing and point the finger.
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tbf(!) he seems to be pointing the finger at SISU as well.
 
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Westendlad

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  • Oct 10, 2016
  • #46
I can't believe any sensible person believes the shite that he spurts out of his lying gob...........Am i going insane or are people actually agreeing with what he said ?
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Oct 10, 2016
  • #47
oldfiver said:
He did not say in CCFC he said in the development
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How would they earn money by investing in the development?
 

Westendlad

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  • Oct 10, 2016
  • #48
IMissMAF said:
Interesting stuff. People need to realise Fisher and SISU are not the same thing.
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What the f............
 
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albatross

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  • Oct 10, 2016
  • #49
Deleted member 5849 said:
tbf(!) he seems to be pointing the finger at SISU as well.
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its just my opinion its heavy with "This scheme would be good for Coventry City as a club, Coventry as a City and the community - providing inward investment" implying that its all lined up ready to go but the political embargo of CCC has blocked it.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Oct 10, 2016
  • #50
albatross said:
its just my opinion its heavy with "This scheme would be good for Coventry City as a club, Coventry as a City and the community - providing inward investment" implying that its all lined up ready to go but the political embargo of CCC has blocked it.
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Hmm, see I read it as 'if the owner'd drop actions we could get this sorted'.

Regardless of which view you take though, I'd be more likely to assume it's playing to the crowd until something, well... actually *happens*.

Even if that's Fisher being teabagged by Joy for being insubordinate.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Oct 10, 2016
  • #51
Deleted member 5849 said:
tbf(!) he seems to be pointing the finger at SISU as well.
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Easy way to gain popularity. I'm sure Joy wouldn't take it personally either. Hell, it might have even been her idea.
 
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italiahorse

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  • Oct 10, 2016
  • #52
Nick said:
It would be like a Tesco type thing wouldn't it? I wonder how a hotel chain would get involved with the premier inn next door.
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It aint big enough.
25,000 stadium, retail, hotel, student accommodation and Car parking.
Same as the joint training facilities.
It's deflection by the lying idiot and a few people are going to lap it up.
 
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albatross

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  • Oct 10, 2016
  • #53
Deleted member 5849 said:
Hmm, see I read it as 'if the owner'd drop actions we could get this sorted'.

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Dont think CCC could take that position and legally defend it as it is not connected with the JR's. Planning is planning and if SISU (or whoever) is going to make money and get a return I would not expect any hesitation from them.
 
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oldfiver

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  • Oct 10, 2016
  • #54
Westendlad said:
I can't believe any sensible person believes the shite that he spurts out of his lying gob...........Am i going insane or are people actually agreeing with what he said ?
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What is there to disagree with?
You might not believe it but that is different
 

torchomatic

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  • Oct 10, 2016
  • #55
albatross said:
its just my opinion its heavy with "This scheme would be good for Coventry City as a club, Coventry as a City and the community - providing inward investment" implying that its all lined up ready to go but the political embargo of CCC has blocked it.
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TBF I think he was talking about SISU.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Oct 10, 2016
  • #56
albatross said:
Dont think CCC could take that position and legally defend it as it is not connected with the JR's. Planning is planning and if SISU (or whoever) is going to make money and get a return I would not expect any hesitation from them.
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It's still easier to get things through with the co-operation of the local council.
 
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oldfiver

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  • Oct 10, 2016
  • #57
skybluetony176 said:
How would they earn money by investing in the development?
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Hang on - I think I have missed something
Who are the "they" you are referring to?
 
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oldfiver

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  • Oct 10, 2016
  • #58
italiahorse said:
It aint big enough.
25,000 stadium, retail, hotel, student accommodation and Car parking.
Same as the joint training facilities.
It's deflection by the lying idiot and a few people are going to lap it up.
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You are a development architect as well now then?
 
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Westendlad

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  • Oct 10, 2016
  • #59
oldfiver said:
What is there to disagree with?
You might not believe it but that is different
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Because it's all bullshit.............He said the same thing 2 3 4 5 years ago.......in fact it's even more depressing !!
 
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Moff

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  • Oct 10, 2016
  • #60
skybluetony176 said:
Did anyone need convincing of that? It's a flat grass surface that can be lined out to regulation and still have enough room for goal posts and net's.
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The council.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2016
  • #61
oldfiver said:
Hang on - I think I have missed something
Who are the "they" you are referring to?
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"They" would be the institutional investors who you told FP would be investing in the development and not CCFC. My question is how would "they" get a return on that investment?
 

higgs

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2016
  • #62
Could we buy back the houses on Highfield road and re build our stadium?

Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk
 
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oldfiver

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2016
  • #63
Westendlad said:
Because it's all bullshit.............He said the same thing 2 3 4 5 years ago.......in fact it's even more depressing !!
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But what do you disagree with?
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2016
  • #64
oldfiver said:
He did not say in CCFC he said in the development
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Come on fiver stop being obtuse, the comment was merely a joke to lighten the mood on here.
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2016
  • #65
Quite an interesting q&a. Pinch of salt at the ready but definitely some snippets of truth in there.

Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk
 
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italiahorse

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2016
  • #66
oldfiver said:
You are a development architect as well now then?
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Yes, my mate designed the Tardis and says it can be done.
My other mate Aesop is drawing up the plans.

In reality, go down there and see for yourself.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2016
  • #67
oldfiver said:
You are a development architect as well now then?
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No he just does as wasps tell him and there is that tasty sponsorship deal if we agree a deal - isn't that right italia?
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2016
  • #68
Moff said:
The council.
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Did they?
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2016
  • #69
oldfiver said:
You are a development architect as well now then?
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There will be no room for beduff simpletons to run car parks
 
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oldfiver

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2016
  • #70
skybluetony176 said:
"They" would be the institutional investors who you told FP would be investing in the development and not CCFC. My question is how would "they" get a return on that investment?
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He said they had institutional investors interested in the project
Institutional investors make money from property unit sales and rents etc
 
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