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Lamps

Lamps

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  • Apr 21, 2025
  • #211
GC1976 said:
They got relegated and were give parachute money to get back up, relegated again shouldn’t mean more parachute money ! Its like they are being funded by EPL !
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It's the same rules for everyone. The idea was to stop clubs from going under when they get relegated with a massive wage bill from being in the Prem and not being able to pay the wage bill.

We have spent years moaning about the parachute payments but as soon as we get promoted it will be seen as a good thing. It will be seen as a way of becoming a lower end Prem club with a bit of luck.
 
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Lamps

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  • Apr 21, 2025
  • #212
Another take on what is going on. They could well struggle in every way.

www.bbc.com

Leicester City: 'A calamitous season for club at a crossroads' - what next for relegated Foxes?

The banner flown over the King Power Stadium made its point before a second relegation in three seasons, and instant return to the Championship, was confirmed soon afterwards for Leicester City.
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stevefloyd

stevefloyd

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  • Apr 21, 2025
  • #213
Lamps said:
It isn't as easy as just spending money. The higher up the pyramid you go the more worthless spending money is. You need more than just better players that got you promotion.

I would fancy our chances of giving it a good go. We have a manager who was one of the best players the Prem has ever seen and has improved the way we play no end. We have a few players that could make the big step up. Lampard has contacts in the game that could help. We could make the CBS a fortress. But whatever happens it wouldn't be easy.

I know promotion this season would be great but one more season at this level would probably be better.
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Definitely 1 more season as much as I would like us to get promoted, we would get annihilated with our defence and the miss firing, not ready, strikers..Frank needs some very astute acquisitions for us to stand a chance of survival..We are not exactly battering teams in the championship atm so that needs some investment first
 
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shmmeee

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  • Apr 21, 2025
  • #214
Lamps said:
I would fancy our chances of giving it a good go. We have a manager who was one of the best players the Prem has ever seen and has improved the way we play no end. We have a few players that could make the big step up. Lampard has contacts in the game that could help. We could make the CBS a fortress. But whatever happens it wouldn't be easy.
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Every promoted fan ever…
 
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Lamps

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  • Apr 21, 2025
  • #215
shmmeee said:
Every promoted fan ever…
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Some of us will be realistic. Many of us won't be. Many have never seen us play top flight football. It was bad enough last time and there wasn't th massive amount of money back then.

I'd just want us to compete in some way and not get hammered each week.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Apr 21, 2025
  • #216
Lamps said:
Some of us will be realistic. Many of us won't be. Many have never seen us play top flight football. It was bad enough last time and there wasn't th massive amount of money back then.

I'd just want us to compete in some way and not get hammered each week.
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We all do. It’ll take £150m+ and a huge amount of luck though.
 
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theferret

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  • Apr 21, 2025
  • #217
I simply do not get how people would rather 'give it another year', it makes zero sense. Promotion from this league is difficult, if the opportunity is there, you take it. The default position is that we will be stronger next season, but who says we will? I expect sales in the summer. The club operates at a hefty loss, so we'll need money to reinvest, who says we get the ins and outs right? We may well be in the same position at this stage next season, fighting for 5th or 6th, will we not be ready then either?

If you win promotion, you are, by default, ready. The team that would start next season would be very different to the one that finishes this one. You recruit big. That can go well or it doesn't, we have no idea. But, you seize any chance at promotion you get.
 
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GC1976

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  • Apr 21, 2025
  • #218
Lamps said:
It's the same rules for everyone. The idea was to stop clubs from going under when they get relegated with a massive wage bill from being in the Prem and not being able to pay the wage bill.

We have spent years moaning about the parachute payments but as soon as we get promoted it will be seen as a good thing. It will be seen as a way of becoming a lower end Prem club with a bit of luck.
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I’d have thought there were contract clauses for relegation and higher salaries. The only parachute payments that should be permitted in my opinion is to support temporarily the non playing staff that inevitably get made redundant from exiting the Premier League. Championship football with all teams on the same financial rules would make the league even better and allow more clubs the chance at PL football.
 
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robbiethemole

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  • Apr 21, 2025
  • #219
stevefloyd said:
Definitely 1 more season as much as I would like us to get promoted, we would get annihilated with our defence and the miss firing, not ready, strikers..Frank needs some very astute acquisitions for us to stand a chance of survival..We are not exactly battering teams in the championship atm so that needs some investment first
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At least they’ve scored more than Lesta strikers
 
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Lamps

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  • Apr 21, 2025
  • #220
theferret said:
I simply do not get how people would rather 'give it another year', it makes zero sense. Promotion from this league is difficult, if the opportunity is there, you take it. The default position is that we will be stronger next season, but who says we will? I expect sales in the summer. The club operates at a hefty loss, so we'll need money to reinvest, who says we get the ins and outs right? We may well be in the same position at this stage next season, fighting for 5th or 6th, will we not be ready then either?

If you win promotion, you are, by default, ready. The team that would start next season would be very different to the one that finishes this one. You recruit big. That can go well or it doesn't, we have no idea. But, you seize any chance at promotion you get.
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We have vastly improved under Lampard. This is without a squad he has shaped. I'm sure we will be stronger next season than this one. Of course I would take promotion this season otherwise why even bother playing.

Yes there's a good chance a player or two will be sold. But they won't be sold cheaply as are under contract. Should also be money coming from the sale of Gyokeres. These funds will help fund new players coming in. Then we should be able to compete nearer the top of the table if we don't go up this season. If we go up this season all I can see is a long, hard season coming.
 
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robbiethemole

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  • Apr 21, 2025
  • #221
Maybe a crap season but for the benefit of the Club, ££££££’s in and chance to sort out the ownership of the ground, some decent players, and get on a sound base for the future. Also a chance to enjoy seeing top class players at the CBS, and we know we’d be getting stuffed some weeks, but I’m relaxed about that too.
It’ll be an experience my lad has never had before
 
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Mcbean

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  • Apr 21, 2025
  • #222
robbiethemole said:
Maybe a crap season but for the benefit of the Club, ££££££’s in and chance to sort out the ownership of the ground, some decent players, and get on a sound base for the future. Also a chance to enjoy seeing top class players at the CBS, and we know we’d be getting stuffed some weeks, but I’m relaxed about that too.
It’ll be an experience my lad has never had before
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Hopefully we are passing them on the way up
 

Frostie

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  • Apr 21, 2025
  • #223
GC1976 said:
I’d have thought there were contract clauses for relegation and higher salaries. The only parachute payments that should be permitted in my opinion is to support temporarily the non playing staff that inevitably get made redundant from exiting the Premier League. Championship football with all teams on the same financial rules would make the league even better and allow more clubs the chance at PL football.
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Don't forget with the teams yo-yoing, the money they would have been given gets split between PL teams instead so the gulf just gets wider & wider.

Leicester & Southampton straight backup = £102m just gifted to Premier League clubs.
If Burnley & Sheffield United go up this year, that's another £102m.

Think what could happen if that money actually filtered down to the EFL instead.
 
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Ashdown

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  • Apr 21, 2025
  • #224
The money gap is disgusting now, very difficult to bridge that gap but trying to be optimistic some clubs have managed to find a way. We have the right manager and best support, just need to find half a dozen absolute gems to sustain a stab at staying up.
Still quite a way to go though before we should even be discussing it.
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Apr 21, 2025
  • #225
Lamps said:
If we go up this season all I can see is a long, hard season coming.
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The point is that regardless of when we go up it’ll be a long, hard season.
 

Tommo1993

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  • Apr 21, 2025
  • #226
Aren’t they well over £200m in the red?
 

Mcbean

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  • Apr 21, 2025
  • #227
I would imagine it would be much easier for Doug to find an investor if we can get promotion ?
 
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wingy

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  • Apr 21, 2025
  • #228
When was the money last increased.both for survival and relegation,has inflation taken a chunk out of it leading to more clubs using other forms of leveraging?
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Apr 21, 2025
  • #229
Frostie said:
Don't forget with the teams yo-yoing, the money they would have been given gets split between PL teams instead so the gulf just gets wider & wider.

Leicester & Southampton straight backup = £102m just gifted to Premier League clubs.
If Burnley & Sheffield United go up this year, that's another £102m.

Think what could happen if that money actually filtered down to the EFL instead.
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Should be divided amongst the other EFL teams, inc. L1 and 2
 
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ccfcchris

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  • Apr 22, 2025
  • #230
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Hobo

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  • Apr 22, 2025
  • #231
We'll_live_and_die said:
Nistelrooy doesn't seem to have a clue either, which makes me happy we ended up with Lamps and not him.
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He took over no hopers in fairness
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Apr 22, 2025
  • #232
Hobo said:
He took over no hopers in fairness
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If they’d stuck with Cooper they’d have probably stayed up.
 
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Legia Sky Blue

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  • Apr 22, 2025
  • #233
Sick Boy said:
If they’d stuck with Cooper they’d have probably stayed up.
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They would probably have made a better fist of it, but they would have still gone down. The gulf between the bottom 3 and the rest is far too big this season.
 
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Hobo

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  • Apr 22, 2025
  • #234
Sick Boy said:
If they’d stuck with Cooper they’d have probably stayed up.
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That is pure fan conjecture. It's like saying if we had kept Robins we could have still made the play offs. Mathematically yes, but we will never know. What, ifs and buts stand for nothing in the real world.
 

fatso

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  • Apr 22, 2025
  • #235
The money differential between the Premier league and the Championship is so big now that the Premier league is becoming a closed shop. It's becoming almost impossible for some clubs to compete financially with those who are in receipt of parachute payments.
 
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oscillatewildly

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  • Apr 22, 2025
  • #236
Hobo said:
That is pure fan conjecture. It's like saying if we had kept Robins we could have still made the play offs. Mathematically yes, but we will never know. What, ifs and buts stand for nothing in the real world.
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Hobo, put your slide rule away - This is a leper city slating thread.
Come on man, get with the program!
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Apr 22, 2025
  • #237
Hobo said:
That is pure fan conjecture. It's like saying if we had kept Robins we could have still made the play offs. Mathematically yes, but we will never know. What, ifs and buts stand for nothing in the real world.
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Well, it’s undeniable that RvN made them a hell of a lot worse.
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Apr 23, 2025
  • #238
Just saw something that they are very near to the psr levels so will have to sack him after July 1st as it’s going to be expensive to get rid of him and his people.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Apr 23, 2025
  • #239
Sick Boy said:
If they’d stuck with Cooper they’d have probably stayed up.
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His PPG was 0.83 at the point of being sacked so based on that they'd have been relegated even with him in charge, albeit still alive at this point.
 

blunted

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  • Apr 23, 2025
  • #240
Mcbean said:
I would imagine it would be much easier for Doug to find an investor if we can get promotion ?
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Think he might sell
 

We'll_live_and_die

Super Moderator
  • Apr 23, 2025
  • #241
Sick Boy said:
If they’d stuck with Cooper they’d have probably stayed up.
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Facts
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 23, 2025
  • #242
fernandopartridge said:
His PPG was 0.83 at the point of being sacked so based on that they'd have been relegated even with him in charge, albeit still alive at this point.
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Stop putting a downer on things. This is one time when facts can get in the bin.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Apr 23, 2025
  • #243
Sick Boy said:
Stop putting a downer on things. This is one time when facts can get in the bin.
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It would have been better for them to still retain hope at this stage but be relegated anyway imo
 
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Leicesterfox

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  • Apr 24, 2025
  • #244
Nah can’t see a headline of you lot on our forum ⚽️
 

Hobo

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  • Apr 24, 2025
  • #245
Leicesterfox said:
Nah can’t see a headline of you lot on our forum ⚽️
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You don't see me on your forum
 
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