If I was gay,which I'm not, or any other of the aforementioned the last thing I would do would be to be a willing member of a group.This would be an ideal scenario Reverend. However, having spent a reasonable amount of time with the LGBTQ community they unfortunately don't consider this to be PC gone mad and consider lad culture and homophobia in football to be a real problem.
Anyhow, I didn't really mean for this to be a debate on the pros and cons of it, I am just looking to connect.
Kg57 states he is not gay so why is he worrying that they are represented...this is the same political correctness as when councils say Muslims are offended by Christmas when they themselves have not complained..In a world of so called inclusiveness why have a separate group to isolate yourself..
If I was gay,which I'm not, or any other of the aforementioned the last thing I would do would be to be a willing member of a group.
I'm bald , so should I start a skyblue bald club so people understand why I haven't a hair on my head.
The people who are bigots and who abuse these people won't stop suddenly if they are part of some group and certainly will not go out there way to try and understand why someone is gay for example.
Just get on with life and live it,ignore the bigots and show your better than them by doing so.
Just my opinion
I may have misunderstood the intention then.But can you not see that it's about people finding common ground and thus felling more comfortable?
Try Bruce the Boot.Do we have any LGBTQ fans on here?
I'm interested in talking with people about potentially setting up an LGBTQ fan group as I think it is important that a club such as ours with such a progressive history can be a leading light in this area.
I would also love to hear about people's experiences as an LGBTQ supporter in a world where lad culture is so prevalent.
Happy to receive a PM from you as I understand this is a sensitive subject. It goes without saying that any conversations between us will stay between us.
I should also point out that I am NOT LGBTQ but am interested in learning more about people's experiences and helping to promote LGBTQ awareness in an arena that badly needs and deserves it.
I agree about that.
Does this still happen in this day and age at a football match? (I might be being naive).
I know there have been chants when an opposition fan has been wearing pink and giving it loads also. The old "Whos the gayboy in the pink" and stuff like that but only a couple of times in how many years?
How does sexuality even come into it when going to watch a football match? I couldn't tell you whether the blokes who sit near me are gay or straight, I don't pay too much attention and couldn't really care.
PmslA bit harsh
BTW note to the op - download grinder and sit on the half way line to catch all
I think this is a great idea. Only on Saturday I was sat in the stand at Charlton and there was a torrent of homophobic abuse coming out of the blokes sat near me. Things like 'The Charlton goalkeeper fucks the ref' calling Burge a 'fucking faggot' and so on. Football doesn't feel particularly inclusive when it comes to sexuality (or gender for that matter) so anything that might help make LGBT supporters feel more welcome would be brilliant. Nice one KG7!
I think this is a great idea. Only on Saturday I was sat in the stand at Charlton and there was a torrent of homophobic abuse coming out of the blokes sat near me. Things like 'The Charlton goalkeeper fucks the ref' calling Burge a 'fucking faggot' and so on. Football doesn't feel particularly inclusive when it comes to sexuality (or gender for that matter) so anything that might help make LGBT supporters feel more welcome would be brilliant. Nice one KG7!
Not only is he a homophobe, his patter is fucking dreadful.
Were you in the front tier to the right of the goal? If so he was near me too. Kept dropping the C bomb with it and the odd racist comment to boot. A total prick who took his teenage daughter to witness his performance. A sad sad excuse of a man.
How is Q any different to L or G? Also you forgot A apparently.
Not a fan of splitting people up into little groups, we have enough fan groups as it is. But don't really care. I don't see the point in London supporters or any of those either, but I'm not going to stop them.
Now if you want to start a "bellow forward at the top of your voice after three consecutive passes" fans group, you can fuck off.
I have clocked on, it's a bloke in the disabled section.
It worked against West Ham though, he kept shouting "score a goal" and we did.
It didn't against Northampton though.
How is Q any different to L or G? Also you forgot A apparently.
Not a fan of splitting people up into little groups, we have enough fan groups as it is. But don't really care. I don't see the point in London supporters or any of those either, but I'm not going to stop them.
Now if you want to start a "bellow forward at the top of your voice after three consecutive passes" fans group, you can fuck off.
From why I understand, lesbian is a woman who finds women attractive; gay is a man who finds men attractive and queer relates to people that don't fall into these categories, or don't wish to be identified as such. For example a trans relationship or an individual who doesn't feel like they're adequately categorised by the above terms...e.g. Someone who finds it difficult to identify as a man or a woman...
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I think this is a great idea. Only on Saturday I was sat in the stand at Charlton and there was a torrent of homophobic abuse coming out of the blokes sat near me. Things like 'The Charlton goalkeeper fucks the ref' calling Burge a 'fucking faggot' and so on. Football doesn't feel particularly inclusive when it comes to sexuality (or gender for that matter) so anything that might help make LGBT supporters feel more welcome would be brilliant. Nice one KG7!
Still just city fans though.
Yeah but as has been outlined by many people on here there is value in supporting minority groups who are targeted by other minority groups, bigots and those who don't know better.
Until the day where everybody can see things in the way that you are explaining then these type of groups are important...
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It's been said time and time again with all sorts of different groups but he won't have it.
Definitely questioning, why would they use a derogatory term like queer?It stands for Queer, but apparently it can also stand for 'Questioning' which I didn't know until just now.
Like I said, I am all for it if it helps.
I'd rather crack down on the people shouting racist, homophobic stuff etc rather than people having to feel like they have to start a group for something. That's all.
Because reclaiming a pejorative term kills it.Definitely questioning, why would they use a derogatory term like queer?
Because reclaiming a pejorative term kills it.
Don't get that either, as the people still using it in a negative way mean it in a negative way.
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