Is it not possible Joy extended the same invite to Ann Lucas as she did to Nikki Sinclaire and some fans? Joy certainly said she was happy to talk - how do you know it wasn't Ann that refused, she has been awfully quiet since.
I have seen nothing from ACL or the council for months now.
I'm all for those who think the council are in the wrong having their chance to protest but having read their website I'm really not sure what they're hoping to achieve.
Of course the headline of the campaign, get cov back to the ricoh, is something I'm pretty sure we all agree with but the actual detail of the campaign doesn't seem to offer anything that will help us move towards that.
I'd much rather see this group come up with a clear plan that could facilitate the return of the club to the Ricoh and push both sides to move towards that.
If we are going to question the council I'd keep it simple, gives them less wriggle room:
Is the £150K rental offer available to Otium, if not what rental offer is available to them
Would the council consider any bids for the freehold
Would the council consider any bids for their 50% share in ACL
I think this campaign would get more support if they were clearer about what they think the council can do. It all comes across as a bit like 'let SISU have the Ricoh and everything will be OK'.
Or will the argument be that "that's what those other groups are for"?
I love how quickly his viewpoint changed to "Sell the Ricoh" as soon as he got an exclusive "interview" with Seppala. Same as Sinclaire. Same as the "chosen few" fans who have met her. Problem is, if she's so damn persuasive, why only meet with people already sympathetic and why not make those same arguments publicly?
You've seen nothing publicly since the JR to be fair.
Joy didn't extend either invite, she accepted their requests. I'm fairly certain Lucas hasn't refused any offer as no offer has been made, Sinclaire said she could get Joy but hasn't delivered either. Like I say, whenever a third party has asked both sides, only one has replied.
Unless you've got evidence that Joy has made such an offer I think it's a bit silly to accuse Lucas of not accepting it.
I'm not there because i'm at work (working hard...) but more importantly i'm not sure what this message is actually trying to achieve? what do we actually want from the council?
Should Sisu come out and say OK we want to start negotiations with the council/ACL and they don't or won't i could understand. But when Sisu are simply saying free hold or nothing i can't see what petitioning the council will achieve?
If others have a better understanding than me i'm happy to hear...
Another question: when will this group hold a similar protest towards the club? If they don't are they not just as guilty of imbalance as they accuse all previous groups of being? Or will the argument be that "that's what those other groups are for"?
I don't remember Sinclaire being sympathetic before, neither were the fans that were invited (at least one of whom is on here).
I agree she maybe needs to get involved in a forum like has been held previously.
It is weird though as the people who would back the protests in London where a few people went are now chuffed because only a few are at the council house and not thousands? I can't remember thousands being in London or the Hill (where the game can be watched and isn't in work time) and the only one is the march where everybody agreed.
Why involve Sinclaire in this - the European Parliament has nothing to do with local issues?
All a forum would do is give a platform and a voice to a political non-entity who couldn't even hack it with UKIP.
I love how quickly his viewpoint changed to "Sell the Ricoh" as soon as he got an exclusive "interview" with Seppala. Same as Sinclaire. Same as the "chosen few" fans who have met her. Problem is, if she's so damn persuasive, why only meet with people already sympathetic and why not make those same arguments publicly?
The argument, apparently, is that this is closer. But then the Ryton protest had about 10 people at it so that doesn't quite hold true.
The argument, apparently, is that this is closer. But then the Ryton protest had about 10 people at it so that doesn't quite hold true.
The argument, apparently, is that this is closer. But then the Ryton protest had about 10 people at it so that doesn't quite hold true.
It is weird though as the people who would back the protests in London where a few people went are now chuffed because only a few are at the council house and not thousands? I can't remember thousands being in London or the Hill (where the game can be watched and isn't in work time) and the only one is the march where everybody agreed.
24 from the picture you posted earlier, but yeah the only protest to cover itself in glory was the Trust's march. And even conservative estimates for the hill give double that at this protest.
That said, none of those protests had the Telegraph/Les Reid promoting them either.
All of these campaigns just seem a bit like people who like to arrange things, a bit OTT.
The Whole situation is totally out of control. The majority of the fans don't know which campaign they are backing!!
The individual campaigns are the reasons that there are major fractions within the supporters now!!
No by far and away the most impressive protest, indeed far more impressive than even the 'March to Broadgate', is the overwhelming number of fans protesting by refusing to go to Sixfields. That truly is a hugely impressive protest, resolute quiet but determined, and clearly shows that 80/85% of fans are still united. The overwhelming number of fans will be continuing doing their protest tonight, by simply refusing to go to Sixfields.24 from the picture you posted earlier, but yeah the only protest to cover itself in glory was the Trust's march. And even conservative estimates for the hill give double that at this protest.
That said, none of those protests had the Telegraph/Les Reid promoting them either.
I agree.
Here's to people who sit and moan of the InternetAt least we're modest!
I am going to start a splinter group with letters I can put at the end of posts. I still just think the one body should be pushing / speaking to / pressuring all parties. I am not saying shouting SISU OUT or mugging councillors but just trying to get all sides properly.
Anyone know where in the meeting this is discussed (if it is) BTW?
http://www.coventry.public-i.tv/core/portal/webcast_interactive/114689
I would suggest that the next act should be for individuals to write to their ward councillor to ask them the question.
Individuals can also write directly to Ann Lucas.
I am going to start a splinter group with letters I can put at the end of posts. I still just think the one body should be pushing / speaking to / pressuring all parties. I am not saying shouting SISU OUT or mugging councillors but just trying to get all sides properly.
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