It's because Robins is struggling to get players he wants and obviously loans are much cheaper.I don't get why we are taking in so many loans. Having 2 of the 4 centre halves as youg inexperienced loanees seems like the limit for me. He's now brought in 2 more young inexperienced wing backs/wingers. They seem to be talking about bringing in more. We have had success in the past few seasons with consistency, players who establish themseves and become fan favourites. You don't get that with loanees. 1 or 2 in a squad is enough I think.
They signed a lot of players on a permanent too.Forest got promoted with loans last season. But good quality loans.
I wouldn't worry. We will have a big summer clear out and therefore big summer shopping. If not then I would really start worrying. At the moment like mentioned before we've just swapped owners as well as our recruitment team so I wouldn't be all too surprised that they don't want to splash the cash on long term investments they've had no time scouting, just like how you or I wouldn't throw 7k quid on a used car we've not even had a look at.
It's due to the underinvestment under sisu towards the end of their tenure, and the lack of development of our own youth set up.
When you couple that with some very questionable signings (Dacosta, Hilsner, kane, Cashman, Waghorn, Walker, Reid etc)
and the fact that our budget was amongst the very lowest in the championship, then you realise that MR has little option but to use loans.
Doug has to do something this window to get us through the season without us fans shitting our pants as we slide towards the lower end. He should however be judged in the summer, there's a lot of dead wood out of contract, thank fuck, so lets hope for a nice little rebuild.My concern is that we won’t significantly raise the wage budget which is the real problem here. It’s very sensible to say we want it to match revenue but the fact is championship wages significantly outstrip championship revenue.
Doug has to do something this window to get us through the season without us fans shitting our pants as we slide towards the lower end. He should however be judged in the summer, there's a lot of dead wood out of contract, thank fuck, so let’s hope for a nice little rebuild.
Yes they absolutely did. Which blows my stance out of the water.Forest got promoted with loans last season. But good quality loans.
Hopefully some options that are actually allowed to come and play in the country this time.I’m happy to give him next season before we judge. I don’t think we’ll go down, push comes to shove Robins has shown he can grind out points with crap at this level. But the summer is massive. So if there’s money to spend I’d be front loading the recruitment department and making sure we can get signings in ASAP then.
If we hit July with no signings again I’d be very worried. Ride this season out, get a deal for Vik done to go in the summer, decide who is going, and start signings pre contracts so we have a new squad in for preseason. Two or three months should be long enough for a team of scouts to produce some options.
My concern is that we won’t significantly raise the wage budget which is the real problem here. It’s very sensible to say we want it to match revenue but the fact is championship wages significantly outstrip championship revenue.
Sell some of our players. It’s the only way we’ll see a significant uplift in potential budget.
We could try and look on the positive side and say a new recruitment team might make better use of the funds we're currently wasting on the likes of Hilssner and Dacosta etc.I'm really concerned about the rebuild needed in the summer. A new and untested recruitment department, needing to rebuild a brand new squad. Could be horrendous
Sell some of our players. It’s the only way we’ll see a significant uplift in potential budget.
Hmm not sure I agree with this. It's more likely that selling playes will give the club greater scope to spend more with regards to offering fees but I'd imagine the budget will still be the budget and it isn't likely to increase beyond what it currently is. Not by a great deal anyway. The club's wage structure can't really increase significantly without external investment from the owner.
Sell some of our players. It’s the only way we’ll see a significant uplift in potential budget.
We could try and look on the positive side and say a new recruitment team might make better use of the funds we're currently wasting on the likes of Hilssner and Dacosta etc.
It's one to feel both excited and scared at the prospect as it could go either way.
This transfer window I'd have been fine with temporary additions if the right permanent players aren't available but we're almost up to the maximum we can have in a match day squad.
We just have to hope we can get some injured players back, not lose any more and get this season over with and see what next season brings. I feel certain we'll be losing at least one of the big names to help with the rebuild as there is going to be little extra coming from the ownership but maybe we can be stronger overall from it. Time will tell.
Had exactly the same conversation with my lad. Great postLets say we sell Vik for the reported £18m.
Brighton likely to have a sell on between 10% and 20% of Profit - lets call it £2.5m
£3m into club infrastructure (training ground etc)
£1.5m to cover increased rent costs for a few years
£3m as a transfer kitty
leaves £1m a year additional wage budget (plus Vik's wages) for 5 years.
Obviously these are just pie in the sky figures, but even an additional £1m a year, probably only gets you 1 or 2 players at the standard we need.
You can always balance the transfer kitty/wages.... but trying to get fans to sign up to a season ticket after selling your star striker for nearly £20 and replacing him with a free is going to be a struggle.
I fear that we may need to sell both Vik and Gus this summer (O'Hare likely to stay due to his injury)... but then we really need to be proactive in terms of identifying their replacements, as not only do we need to improve the squad, we'd need to replace two of our most important playersHad exactly the same conversation with my lad. Great post
Lets say we sell Vik for the reported £18m.
Brighton likely to have a sell on between 10% and 20% of Profit - lets call it £2.5m
£3m into club infrastructure (training ground etc)
£1.5m to cover increased rent costs for a few years
£3m as a transfer kitty
leaves £1m a year additional wage budget (plus Vik's wages) for 5 years.
Obviously these are just pie in the sky figures, but even an additional £1m a year, probably only gets you 1 or 2 players at the standard we need.
You can always balance the transfer kitty/wages.... but trying to get fans to sign up to a season ticket after selling your star striker for nearly £20 and replacing him with a free is going to be a struggle.
Unlikely Gyokeres will be sold for £18m. Seems interested clubs are once again looking elsewhere.
Brighton will have a larger sell on clause than that. I suspect it's around 25% of profit. Hoping it's not higher than that but wouldn't be all that shocked either.
EFL loan is around £2.4m I think. Needs repaying next year unless already paid but I doubt it has been unless i've missed something.
Covering the overheads will be around £5m a season give or take. I'd imagine DK will want them covered as much as possible.
Any transfer instalments we still have remaining will need paying. Not all that uncommon for them to stretch over 3 even 4 years.
Rent costs will be increasing significantly as you've mentioned. We don't know what commercial deal the club is going to get next year either with regards to the stadium. That will also factor into how much will need to be dedicated to covering overheads. Spoke to someone at the club last week who have stated that FG's demands are unsustainable.
Transfer fees are also paid over 2-3 years as mentioned. Will dictate what Robins can do in the summer window - primarily because it depends how much the parent club of targets will want up front for any players we're interested in which require fees to be paid.
I worry about the ambition when we hand the likes of Wilson a 3 year extension…Which is fine, but then expect a very bumpy ride through to the end.
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