LeamingtonBootBoy
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That explains a lot....and the regular pent up frustration you let out on here.....
Nope never. I don't drink anymore. Haven't for years. I did a lot in my late teens and twenties
In my working life it has been quite the norm for many, many, many work colleagues to drink and drive.
It's a lot more rife than people on here are making out. And though I am not condoning it in any shape or form, and I hate to see anyone drink and drive, McCormick was only twice over the limit. As I say, if I am driving I don't touch a single drop and it should be a zero tolerance policy that should be in force, but there are I would guess absolutely huge masses of people who drive home twice over the limit regularly.
I used to work with a guy who would have 6 pints at lunchtime and then a further 8 or so at night and he drove to work every morning for about 25 years. He never ever appeared drunk and seemed well in control of his faculties. I have no idea how he did it!
The point I am making here that it can be quite often the case that someone feels they are okay to drive ... when obviously the reality is that the law says that they are not.
Just as dangerous as someone twice over the limit is anyone driving while on their mobile phones. Really bugs me to see it and it is such a regular occurrence and so many people are doing it.
I'm not excusing what he did and of course over the limit is over the limit, but I have had to talk many a person out of driving when they have seemed okay in themselves despite obviously being over the limit.
I am totally against drink driving, as I am of people driving while chatting on their mobile phones and of people speeding.
To my mind it is obviously the speeding thing to blame here as much as anything else.
To sum up here though, yes, the sentence was too lenient. Trouble is, that is not Luke McCormick's fault is it. If he's done his time and is released I'm not quite sure what people expect him to do!
As someone said earlier, it was a horrible mistake. If he is the nice guy people have said he is then I bet there is not a single day that passes by without him relieving the terrible moment.
He's done his time, shown remorse and is now a free citizen. I am sure he will carry the memory of that terrible day to his grave. Is that now not punishment enough?
I'm not saying anyone should forgive him. At the same time though, he has the right to earn and living and his living is as a footballer.
If it ever happened to my daughter and the bloke showed complete remorse, I am not sure I would forgive him, but I would be a lot more at peace knowing that he had to face the same sentence every single day for the rest of his life. i certainly wouldn't be seeking revenge though. Not he was sincerely remorseful.
I'm absoluely amazed you think that's vindictive! The parents will suffer every day of their waking hour and not in the same way he will...as I said before he'll at least have the privelege of seeing his children grow up...and not from a wheelchair. Yes I do hope he is haunted for the rest of his life for what he did...I hope his life is a misery but I'll guarantee it will be nothing compared to what those parents will go through. The sentence was pathetic and if he'd done that to my 2 daughters he wouldn't be alive now.
Well if he is this wonderful guy, he must be just an unbelievably thick c**t. But hey he s a footballer and is sorry , fair do s maybe a statue outside the ricoh
If it ever happened to my daughter and the bloke showed complete remorse, I am not sure I would forgive him, but I would be a lot more at peace knowing that he had to face the same sentence every single day for the rest of his life. i certainly wouldn't be seeking revenge though. Not he was sincerely remorseful.
Some bloke once hit my 26 year old daughter when she split up with him. She was about 20 at the time. He got it back off me. I wouldn't like to think what I would do if anyone hurt my little ones. Now if someone killed any of my kids I would happily do time. Showing remorse would not cut it with me. I would be a lot more at peace knowing he could never do it again.
McCormick seems to have genuinely shown remorse for his stupid actions that have tragically cost the lives of two young kids. The sentence was short yes, but the point of prison is to punish AND rehabilitate. McCormick seems to be genuinely gutted and I think we can all only imagine our feelings if we made a mistake that led to a family losing their kids.
I think I read somewhere he wants to front a campaign to stop people making the same mistake he did. If his campaign can stop a few people drink driving, and save even a few more people's lives from being lost, then he's doing more good to society on the outside than he'd be doing in prison.
As I say, I really feel for the family involved, but McCormick has served his time, and it seems prison has had the desired effect. He accepts all the blame and wants to educate others to stop them making the same mistake.
Drink-driving is an idiotic thing to do - but I don't see him as a reprehensible human being, he just made one big mistake that will haunt him for all his days.
I think that's a little different. You have to be a pretty disgusting person to hit a woman or child. McCormick made a bad mistake, but he didn't go out with the intention of killing anyone. It was an accident. Entirely his fault, but an accident all the same.
As for killing someone who killed one of your loved ones, that's a different debate, but to me that feels like I'd be lowering myself to the killer's level.
I think that's a little different. You have to be a pretty disgusting person to hit a woman or child. McCormick made a bad mistake, but he didn't go out with the intention of killing anyone. It was an accident. Entirely his fault, but an accident all the same.
As for killing someone who killed one of your loved ones, that's a different debate, but to me that feels like I'd be lowering myself to the killer's level.
So be it.
I am not a violent person anymore. That stopped many years ago when I realised how much my family means to me. I am like mum and dad to my 2 year old lad. He is heartbroken whenever I go to work or anywhere without him. If anything happened to him I could just not forget. I could not forgive. I know what it is like to nearly lose one of my kids. I had to resusitate my 3 year old daughter on 2nd Jan this year. 5 mins before half time. I forget who we were playing but will never forget what happened. I kept her breathing until the ambulance turned up. They took about 40 mins in the ambulance to stabilise her. I love all my kids the same, although they all go through stages of testing you. Nearly everything I do is for my kids.
Good man. Certainly not suggesting that the family concerned here should just forgive and forget - just that the legal system needs to look at society as a whole.
Good man. Certainly not suggesting that the family concerned here should just forgive and forget - just that the legal system needs to look at society as a whole.
This is what I am trying to say. 3 years was not enough. Would 3 years have been enough for leaving their father in a wheelchair alone?
I don't think anyone has said he should never play again. 3 years though FFS
18 months for the life of each child and nothing for leaving their father in a wheelchair for life. I can't get my head around how someone can do such a thing and get away with it so lightly.
With respect, what else do we need to know?...As remoresful as he maybe, He killed two children and crippled their father. That's as much as we need to know. There are NO mitigating circumstances. He Drank, He drove, He killed and crippled, what else is there to say?
this tosser totally fucks up a family forever, all i would need is 5 mins in the cell with him..end of
You can at least give us a hint. Otherwise that doesn't mean anything.
Nowt like putting a spin on things is there.
No-one has said he is wonderful. And the statue stuff is pure nonsense. He's done his time, has showed remorse and is a free man.
Not sure what else people expect from him. If you;re angry be angry with the system that allowed such a short sentence, not the bloke who has served his sentence and now wants to rehabilitate.
You always seem a very decent and reasonable poster Dellboy, though I have to say I am quite shocked to hear anyone say that 'if he'd done that to my 2 daughters he wouldn't be alive now' about a guy who has genuinely said he is sorry and is full of remorse.
If you were to 'kill him ' in revenge then you would be just as bad as the perpetrator. And even more so under the law because yours would have been premeditated.
Understand the sentiment and anger anyone would have but a tooth for a tooth is not the answer nor is anyone hoping he rots in hell.
If we can rehabilitate people and people can change then surely that makes the world a much better place than one filled with hate and vengeance?
Not like you to sit on the fence, Houch.
Very, very important that he did show remorse, Torch. Makes one hell of a difference in terms of rehabilitation.
You would rather he showed no remorse then? :thinking about:
As I said in an earlier post, Otis, I lost my sister to a pissed up driver. She was 23 years old, married with three kids. Her youngest two never knew their mum. My neice (her youngest) is now a motor-cycle paramedic in Essex (where they were brought up). I am so proud of her. She still has pictures of my sister all over her front room, even though she never knew her mum. She often asks me "What was my mum like Uncle Baz?" Do you know how hard it is to tell her that she was a beautiful person whose life was snuffed out by a drunken bastard because he was in a hurry to get home? All this happened in 1972 - long before most of you on here were even born, but I still have the memories of the day I was told my sister had been killed.
Remorse? I couldn't give a shit if he crawled on his belly and BEGGED my forgiveness. I would still take a gun to his head even today after all these years.
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