clint van damme
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There's been loads of successful protests through history, we're all benefiting from many of them. Of course they're not all successful, nothing is.
How many thousands / tens of thousands / hundreds of thousands of failed protests are there for every one of those?
Pretty sure you said the same about the bullshit the trust was doing as well.
"The Suffragettes protested so it must mean that some batshit mental old people sat in the motorway are going to change the world too".
There's been loads of successful protests through history, we're all benefiting from many of them. Of course they're not all successful, nothing is.
They’ve got more chance of achieving something than a miserable c**t like you protesting on line about them.How many thousands / tens of thousands / hundreds of thousands of failed protests are there for every one of those?
Pretty sure you said the same about the bullshit the trust was doing as well.
"The Suffragettes protested so it must mean that some batshit mental old people sat in the motorway are going to change the world too".
Which is why it's hilarious to compare these pricks to the Suffragettes and make out they are going to be the start of the world changing. (see Pete's nonsense).
That's OTT but the suffragettes is a good example to pull out when you start your bizarre rants about protesting.
Protests have achieved a lot, luckily not everyone sits on their hands.
Though I agree about this insulate Britain lot, they seem confused.
They’ve got more chance of achieving something than a miserable c**t like you protesting on line about them.
That's OTT but the suffragettes is a good example to pull out when you start your bizarre rants about protesting.
Protests have achieved a lot, luckily not everyone sits on their hands.
Though I agree about this insulate Britain lot, they seem confused.
Not really a bizarre rant, its when people go on about these pricks like they are going to save the world.
But you say the same about every protest totally ignoring what protest has achieved.
That's OTT but the suffragettes is a good example to pull out when you start your bizarre rants about protesting.
Protests have achieved a lot, luckily not everyone sits on their hands.
Though I agree about this insulate Britain lot, they seem confused.
It depends on the protest.
Just because one protest achieves something it doesn't mean every protest from then on will.
Did the suffragette movement actually work anyway?
Which I've said, you seem to dismiss them all.
As I said, it depends what they are and what the method is.
Much better than blindly backing something because it's a protest and then refer to an instance over 100 years ago to justify it as some do on here.
Yes & no.......It was more to do with women taking up the slack at home during & after WW1 wasnt it?
Yes & no.......It was more to do with women taking up the slack at home during & after WW1 wasnt it?
But you never back any protest.
Wouldn't have happened without their initial efforts
Wouldn't have happened without their initial efforts
So you’re saying that people looked upon them in the same way as you and Nick look at these protesters but ultimately like these protesters are correct in what they’re protesting. Basically you’re saying that you’re on the wrong side of history and Pete is right to make the comparison. Well done Pete.Yes exactly - the actual protests were laughed at and they were viewed as mad loons. The war changed everything and the 1918 change for votes was more significant actually for men than women - this whole argument is based on a misconception.
Disagree. Can you back that up? How then in 1918 were more men than women (I think) allowed the vote who were previously denied it?
Without the war they would have achieved nothing.
Also I am pretty sure they eventually achieved a vote by peaceful political negotiation during the war
Sorry you are giving an opinion not a fact
The misconception is that a protest is only successful if someone walks up to protestors with a signed agreement to give in to their demands. It doesn't work like that, it's about changing attitudes and perceptions over time.
Anti apartheid protestors weren't handed the key to Nelson Mandelas cell to go and let him out.
Maybe because I don't think any of them discussed on here will work or change a thing?
"David, why are you in a sleeping bag for the camera?"
"Suffregattes, we have brought CCFC home and got them to the Championship. It was all us"
Bizarre.
Do you think people weren't talking about climate change before them? If anything, all the talk is about them being pricks (not just on here).
They are only effective if they bring change and achieve the aim.
We aren't talking about climate change though tbf. We're talking about a bunch of idiots sat on a motorway. It's hardly sparked a great debate.I do. A quick look on here suggests The only time these debates get traction is when it’s started by these arseholes
I do. A quick look on here suggests The only time these debates get traction is when it’s started by these arseholes
Where's the discussion about we can all insulate our houses easily?
The misconception is that a protest is only successful if someone walks up to protestors with a signed agreement to give in to their demands. It doesn't work like that, it's about changing attitudes and perceptions over time.
Anti apartheid protestors weren't handed the key to Nelson Mandelas cell to go and let him out.
Which is your opinion but it’s not anything more than that
We aren't talking about climate change though tbf. We're talking about a bunch of idiots sat on a motorway. It's hardly sparked a great debate.
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Oh on here you have people who love a protest regardless of what it's about. (as long as it lines up with their politics of course).
The same suffragettes bollocks was said about the knobs "protesting" about CCFC who felt so strongly about the cause half of them don't even bother.
"People are talking about it" doesn't qualify as a successful protest about "Insulating Britain". Britain being insulated would be a success.
People also talk about skinheads with union jack tattoos on their calves protesting too. You won't find the same people backing them though
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