GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee
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I think any decent human would have a problem with calling being gay 'shameful'
I think any decent human would have a problem with calling being gay 'shameful'And your problem with that is?
Dont get me wrong, but where the fuck do we draw the line?
There are countries and cultures where under age kids are lawfully married to older men,
How long before that becomes acceptable?
How long before the legal age of concent is reduced in the uk? There are people campaigning for it now ffs.
Without moral guidance, when will it end.
Well I can assure you there are millions of decent humans who have issues with it.I think any decent human would have a problem with calling being gay 'shameful'
For what its worth. I hear where your coming from. Is there any easy answer? No. Without some minority report style tech you can't predict which nutters are going to turn to terrorism in the name of Islam.More nonsense to try and stifle the ugly truth about the religion.
I've repeatedly said moderates and hardline... So this response is of no use to the discussion
I repeat Islam is the most intolerant and dangerous of all the religions today... Stats say I'm correct... That's not debatable is it.
And if it is, you are just willfully ignoring what's happening around the world.
We're going round in circles with absolutely zero counter arguments... Just the odd bit of name calling and cliche responses
If you like I can just tow the line and say its a wonderful religion, the majority think homosexuality is fine and apostacy punishment isn't a problem, that FGM isn't a problem and that women and children aren't under the total dominance of men at all.... Then I will... Just for you lot.. Sound fair
I really don't want to participate in this debate any longer...
You’re not listening. The issue is saying all Muslims are intolerant and liable to terrorism. There are obvious issues in Muslim countries, not least with Sunni and Shia civil wars. There are obvious issues with literal understandings of ancient texts. Not one person on here doesn’t acknowledge the clear issue that there isMore nonsense to try and stifle the ugly truth about the religion.
I've repeatedly said moderates and hardline... So this response is of no use to the discussion
I repeat Islam is the most intolerant and dangerous of all the religions today... Stats say I'm correct... That's not debatable is it.
And if it is, you are just willfully ignoring what's happening around the world.
We're going round in circles with absolutely zero counter arguments... Just the odd bit of name calling and cliche responses
If you like I can just tow the line and say its a wonderful religion, the majority think homosexuality is fine and apostacy punishment isn't a problem, that FGM isn't a problem and that women and children aren't under the total dominance of men at all.... Then I will... Just for you lot.. Sound fair
I really don't want to participate in this debate any longer...
Name calling isn't the way forward. Trying to educate people is probably the best method. The issue is, many people with these views don't want to be educated, so it's a complex situation. How do you get through to people who don't want to be got through to? Being called racist or homophobic isn't name calling, it's a statement of fact. Ironically, no one is born homophobic, it's a learned or chosen trait through experience and influence of key figures. Being gay isn't a choice. I personally wouldn't classify anyone who judges someone as shameful for something they don't have a choice in, decent.Well I can assure you there are millions of decent humans who have issues with it.
But no doubt they themselves will get shouted down and called names and abused by the so called tolerant and anti-hate brigade, it's actualy ironic how hate filled the "tolerant" become when they come across anyone with a differing opinion to theirs.
Yes. They are uneducated. There is no scientific evidence or otherwise suggesting being straight is less or more shameful than being gay, or that being black is lesser than being white and vice versa. It's based on hatred, anxiety and lack of understanding. To insist otherwise is absolutely insane and shows just how far we still have to go. Society will never progress and we will fall into the same rabbit holes until the minority catch up with civilized society and learn that humans regardless of sexual orientation, race, skin colour etc are all equal.I think you'll find they dont want to be educated in your beliefs, probably in much the same way as you have no desire to be educated in theirs.
But it's interesting that you appear to believe that they are uneducated, or have a NEED to be educated, it's the thought that your way (not you personally ) is the correct way and others are automatically wrong that is a problem. Surely others are entitled to their beliefs, even if you both disagree.
As a side note, its also interesting that the biggest religion that opposes homosexuality is currently the fastest growing religion in the world.
And should Muslims, Jews and Christian's come together and agree there is more that unites them than divides them, then the future world could be much different.
And we are seeing the start of this now in the middle east.
There probably aren’t moral absolutes I agree. As a Christian the commandments are great as is most of Jesus teaching but literal reading of a lot of the bible would be very very dangerousAnd your problem with that is?
Dont get me wrong, but where the fuck do we draw the line?
When did it become, not just tolerated, but actively and openly encouraged for a man to put his tongue, fist, cock, up another man's arse?
There are countries and cultures where under age kids are lawfully married to older men,
How long before that becomes acceptable?
How long before the legal age of concent is reduced in the uk? There are people campaigning for it now ffs.
Without moral guidance, when will it end.
Homosexuality is between two consenting adults, paedophilia is abusing a child. Not really sure how they have been brought up in the same conversation to be honest.Im not talking about race or colour, I'm talking specifically about homosexuality.
I agree 100% about the acceptance of race or colour, and even religion and politics. It's what separates us that gives us diversity.
In terms of homosexuality the issue becomes somewhat confused, many religions class it as wrong, some countries outlaw it.
although scientists say it's a natural urge not a choice, the same is said of paedophiles in courts of law.
Think it was both being natural urges. Consenting adults is a good explanationHomosexuality is between two consenting adults, paedophilia is abusing a child. Not really sure how they have been brought up in the same conversation to be honest.
It's because the paedophiles claim they cant help the urge, that they are born to be attracted to young kids and it's not a choice they consciously make. Necrophiliacs say the same.Homosexuality is between two consenting adults, paedophilia is abusing a child. Not really sure how they have been brought up in the same conversation to be honest.
And your problem with that is?
Dont get me wrong, but where the fuck do we draw the line?
When did it become, not just tolerated, but actively and openly encouraged for a man to put his tongue, fist, cock, up another man's arse?
There are countries and cultures where under age kids are lawfully married to older men,
How long before that becomes acceptable?
How long before the legal age of concent is reduced in the uk? There are people campaigning for it now ffs.
Without moral guidance, when will it end.
That's fair enough, your quite entitled to disagree. I wont behead you for itWell I'm all for people thinking what they want, but I'm not entirely sure that's in line with modern values, whether you agree or not... I wouldn't crucify you for your opinion... Because its yours.. I don't agree with it
Spent 3 months in a hole with a gay sergeant in afghan
Who knew this thread'd take a turn where we all pile on with the likes to your postsWell I'm all for people thinking what they want, but I'm not entirely sure that's in line with modern values, whether you agree or not... I wouldn't crucify you for your opinion... Because its yours.. I don't agree with it
For what its worth. I hear where your coming from. Is there any easy answer? No. Without some minority report style tech you can't predict which nutters are going to turn to terrorism in the name of Islam.
I'm not all bad, I promise
Who knew this thread'd take a turn where we all pile on with the likes to your posts
Spent 3 months in a hole with a gay sergeant in afghan and 2 other lads, after the shite we had to put up with I hope he went home and rattled his fellas back doors inexcuse my humour
I think you'll find they dont want to be educated in your beliefs, probably in much the same way as you have no desire to be educated in theirs.
But it's interesting that you appear to believe that they are uneducated, or have a NEED to be educated, it's the thought that your way (not you personally ) is the correct way and others are automatically wrong that is a problem. Surely others are entitled to their beliefs, even if you both disagree.
As a side note, its also interesting that the biggest religion that opposes homosexuality is currently the fastest growing religion in the world.
And should Muslims, Jews and Christian's come together and agree there is more that unites them than divides them, then the future world could be much different.
And we are seeing the start of this now in the middle east.
Never thought we'd see this on a footy forum.
Think it was both being natural urges. Consenting adults is a good explanation
This is what people fear isn’t it? Moral relativism. Without moral absolutes who decides what’s morally ok or not? It’s not been resolved till now and will only get more challenging I’m sure
A few rounds fired at the back door never hurt anyone!Tile Hill.
It was probably Fatso firing at him
Yes tile hillTile Hill.
It was probably Fatso firing at him
Yes tile hill
And your problem with that is?
Dont get me wrong, but where the fuck do we draw the line?
When did it become, not just tolerated, but actively and openly encouraged for a man to put his tongue, fist, cock, up another man's arse?
There are countries and cultures where under age kids are lawfully married to older men,
How long before that becomes acceptable?
How long before the legal age of concent is reduced in the uk? There are people campaigning for it now ffs.
Without moral guidance, when will it end.
What’s the moral difference between me eating my missus’ ass and some dudes? Ass is ass my man.
Also I doubt there’s a single country on Earth where the AoC has been lowered rather than raised in recent history. The most you’ve had is people saying 14-16 should be allowed to fuck each other. And as long as they’re safe why not? I was fucking a 15 year old at 16, should I have gone to prison?
Technically you were committing an offence as your were of legal age and they weren't, which is statutory rape. Had you been 15 as well no issue.
It's far more nuanced than the law can make it out to be with arbitrary ages. For example a 14yo genius could be having sex with a rather stupid, naive 30yo and be the person with control in that relationship. In the eyes of the law the 30yo is the one committing the offence even though their the ones being exploited.
Of course I understand and back the rules as most kids don't have the emotional maturity even if they're physically mature, but I could argue I knew plenty of people in my 20's and 30's who I'd argue didn't have the emotional maturity to have a sexual relationship.
Dudes arses tend to be smaller, spotty, and slightly more hairy than your Mrs, (So I hear)
If you want to know what the moral issue is, go ask your Mrs, I’d be interested in her response! I’m sure she won’t say ass is ass!
The Age of convent for homosexuals was reduced as recently as 2003
There are people actively seeking to reduce it further. I’ve no idea why, and I doubt if they will succeed.
Should you of gone to prison? Maybe her dad would be better qualified to answer that!
Give me half an hour and I’ll get back to you!Her dad was dead.
AoC for homosexual sex was normalised to be the same as heterosexual sex. The overall AoC wasn’t lowered.
The stereotypes tell me gay men work quite hard to keep their ass small and hair/spot free. I assume I’m OK to eat metrosexual ass? But not radical feminist ass?
I don’t get the issue. The ass isn’t a sex organ. Women’s asses are functionally identical to men’s asses.
What’s your stance on pegging?
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