Mars helping to end racism (1 Viewer)

Evo1883 · Sep 23, 2020

By removing the name uncle Ben's and replacing it with Ben's original.

Do black people actually ask for this? Or is it another case of rich out of touch white CEOs pushing through such ineffective token gestures.

All they've done is remove a well known black face from a popular brand of rice.
I've never looked at uncle Ben's rice and thought anything other than "expensive brand of packet rice"

Many black people on twatter saying this isn't the type of action they've been asking for.

We are in for much more of this tedious bollocks for many years yet

Sky_Blue_Dreamer · Sep 23, 2020

I opened this wondering if we were sending the racists on a rocket into outer space. But I guess they'd be up in arms about being sent to the Red Planet. It'd have to be the White Planet.

RegTheDonk · Sep 23, 2020

Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
I opened this wondering if we were sending the racists on a rocket into outer space. But I guess they'd be up in arms about being sent to the Red Planet. It'd have to be the White Planet.

Ray Bradbury was well ahead of us on this one

skybluetony176 · Sep 23, 2020

Grrr. Rice.

Evo1883 · Sep 23, 2020

One would argue that Mars ( a republican backing company) have removed the picture of a black man to get more sales, from the racists who refuse to buy it

Mars are racist

Evo1883 · Sep 23, 2020

Fucking site is slow tonight shit the bed

Evo1883 · Sep 23, 2020

skybluetony176 said:
Grrr. Rice.

Actually, nobody is angry about this... Most people are laughing at its insanity... Including black people

hill83 · Sep 23, 2020

Nobody has asked for it, it's a load of nonsense but do we need a thread every time. Fucking boring.

It's tiring as fuck and making me stay away from this forum.

Ring Of Steel · Sep 23, 2020

Evo1883 said:
Fucking site is slow tonight shit the bed

Without wishing to get sucked into the next instalment of George Floyd/ Take the Knee ‘debating’, there is actually reasoning behind it, in particular the ‘Uncle’ part.

Evo1883 · Sep 23, 2020

hill83 said:
Nobody has asked for it, it's a load of nonsense but do we need a thread every time. Fucking boring.

Well unless somebody is about to open a thread about swinging in off topic then it's either brexit, coronovirus or racism in off topic these days... Mostly the former 2

Evo1883 · Sep 23, 2020

Point taken, from now on if I see things like this in future, il just eye roll, giggle and carry on watching football... I could have just thrown this isn one of the other 456 threads on racism tbh

skybluetony176 · Sep 23, 2020

Evo1883 said:
Actually, nobody is angry about this... Most people are laughing at its insanity... Including black people

People on social media are labelling a huge multinational company that is the epitome of capitalism a communist organisation.

You might not be angry about it changing, black people might not be celebrating the change but make no mistake, people are getting angry at rice.

I actually considered raising this subject myself, although on an already established thread but as Hill has said it is a load of nonsense and we certainly don’t need a thread every time someone changes the name of something.

Otis · Sep 23, 2020

Reading into it though, I understand that black people were often called uncle or auntie rather than Mr or Mrs, so it showed a lack of respect. So, dropping the "uncle" part sounds an entirely rational thing to do

I do get it, but have no idea why these things have to keep appearing as major news stories.

covmark · Sep 23, 2020

hill83 said:
Nobody has asked for it, it's a load of nonsense but do we need a thread every time. Fucking boring.

It's tiring as fuck and making me stay away from this forum.

Not one to blow smoke up someone's arse. But the forum is a worse place without you mate. Gifs and your regular contributions.

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Otis · Sep 23, 2020

Agreed

Deleted member 5849 · Sep 24, 2020

Otis said:
Reading into it though, I understand that black people were often called uncle or auntie rather than Mr or Mrs, so it showed a lack of respect. So, dropping the "uncle" part sounds an entirely rational thing to do

I do get it, but have no idea why these things have to keep appearing as major news stories.

Yeah, it's always had echoes of Uncle Tom

Definition of UNCLE TOM

a Black person who is overeager to win the approval of whites (as by obsequious behavior or uncritical acceptance of white values and goals); a person who is overly subservient to or cooperative with authority… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

Why African-Americans Loathe 'Uncle Tom'

Folklorist Patricia Turner discusses "Uncle Tom" — the lead character in the anti-slavery novel "Uncle Tom's Cabin" by abolitionist Harriet Beecher Stowe — as part of NPR's In Character series. The series examines the fictional characters who have defined American life.

www.npr.org

Otis · Sep 24, 2020

Deleted member 5849 said:
Yeah, it's always had echoes of Uncle Tom

Definition of UNCLE TOM

a Black person who is overeager to win the approval of whites (as by obsequious behavior or uncritical acceptance of white values and goals); a person who is overly subservient to or cooperative with authority… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

Why African-Americans Loathe 'Uncle Tom'

Folklorist Patricia Turner discusses "Uncle Tom" — the lead character in the anti-slavery novel "Uncle Tom's Cabin" by abolitionist Harriet Beecher Stowe — as part of NPR's In Character series. The series examines the fictional characters who have defined American life.

www.npr.org

Yes, so it makes perfect sense. Not one to get at all annoyed over and can't be just dismissed as just a joke.

Not a major talking point though and shouldn't be conjuring up headlines.

skybluesam66 · Sep 24, 2020

For uncle Tom, there is Uncle Sam. There is also Bob
no need to look for racial hate in everything

Deleted member 5849 · Sep 24, 2020

Uncle Sam's not black?

skybluesam66 · Sep 24, 2020

Deleted member 5849 said:
Uncle Sam's not black?

Exactly

Otis · Sep 24, 2020

But "uncle" used for a black person was used in an entirely different context. Used as a term because black People weren't seemed to be prominent enough in society to be called Mister.

Sky_Blue_Dreamer · Sep 24, 2020

I hope Aunt Bessie's will also be dropped. Misogynistic view of women whose place is in he kitchen

fernandopartridge · Sep 24, 2020

covmark said:
Not one to blow smoke up someone's arse. But the forum is a worse place without you mate. Gifs and your regular contributions.

Sent from my SM-G960F using Tapatalk

Agreed

clint van damme · Sep 24, 2020

Otis said:
But "uncle" used for a black person was used in an entirely different context. Used as a term because black People weren't seemed to be prominent enough in society to be called Mister.

the fact you even have to explain it is depressing enough.

SBT · Sep 24, 2020

According to the global president of Mars (cool job title), they changed it because customers and employees asked them to ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Uncle Ben's has a new name: Ben's Original

Mars will change the name of its Uncle Ben's rice products to Ben's Original and drop the logo depicting a Chicago head waiter as part of the company's previously announced plans to create a more inclusive brand.

www.cnn.com

Nick · Sep 24, 2020

I've just seen the Lilt Ladies outside the Job Centre.

Houchens Head · Sep 24, 2020

What about removing the picture of Colonel Sanders from KFC? It's offensive to midgets! Look at how his arms and legs are portrayed!
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Otis · Sep 25, 2020

I bet he rues the day he found out he looks like Rolf Harris.

CanadianCCFC · Sep 25, 2020

hill83 said:
Nobody has asked for it, it's a load of nonsense but do we need a thread every time. Fucking boring.

It's tiring as fuck and making me stay away from this forum.

You know there is a section solely for CCFC, and another for sport

Otis · Sep 25, 2020

CanadianCCFC said:
You know there is a section solely for CCFC, and another for sport

That's why I have steered well clear of the EU thread and the Coronavirus thread of late.

Tis annoying when it infiltrates and seeps through into the main threads though.

shmmeee · Sep 25, 2020

Politics all over football right now. BLM and corona both football topics, I can understand avoiding it. Second the comment that this place is poorer without @hill83 though.

hill83 · Sep 25, 2020

CanadianCCFC said:
You know there is a section solely for CCFC, and another for sport

cheers m8

robbiekeane · Sep 26, 2020

Evo1883 said:
One would argue that Mars ( a republican backing company) have removed the picture of a black man to get more sales, from the racists who refuse to buy it

Mars are racist

What are you on about?

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