By the Chelsea lad do you mean Maatsen? And do you think we will get a CB on top of Craine?
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Crainie is around and the Chelsea lad is due to arrive Imminently
Rocky has been a mixture of outstanding followed by panicky errors. Think the jury is still out on him but he's being looked at closely in training
Equally importantly inured and sick senior players are recovering just in time for the season
Keep calm and carry on
If our 2 CB signings are Cranie and Rocky we will go down
my god- what exactly were you expecting?
We have next to no money
We are off the back of ginormous losses
etc etc
I don’t understand what your yardstick is exactly, what is the criteria for “scraping the barrel?” If you were hoping we’d sign £5m players then fair enough but you’re not stupid are you?
Said earlier it’s like we have just grabbed what we can & fingers crossed it clicksI expect what we’ve done every season until this one: us to have scouted and lines up players ahead of time that will improve the squad.
We seem to be taking anyone including players who have barely played for years, players at the end of their careers, players without a club (in one case a player who hasn’t had a club for a year, and in another a player who keeps getting his contract terminated(
Do you seriously think this preseason has the same feel as others squad building wise?
Now apparently we won’t have anyone in before the season starts in a position we have needed strengthening since last year.
The only person mentioning £5m players is you.
Right on cueMoore
Dabo Rose Fadz Craine Maatsen
Sheaf Hamer
O’Hare
Waghorn Gyo
Not sure how I feel about that team tbh
Relegation Fodder CliveRight on cue
Moore
Dabo Rose Fadz Craine Maatsen
Sheaf Hamer
O’Hare
Waghorn Gyo
Not sure how I feel about that team tbh but it doesn’t fill me with much confidence
I expect what we’ve done every season until this one: us to have scouted and lines up players ahead of time that will improve the squad.
We seem to be taking anyone including players who have barely played for years, players at the end of their careers, players without a club (in one case a player who hasn’t had a club for a year, and in another a player who keeps getting his contract terminated(
Do you seriously think this preseason has the same feel as others squad building wise?
Now apparently we won’t have anyone in before the season starts in a position we have needed strengthening since last year.
The only person mentioning £5m players is you.
Another long seasonIt wouldn’t be so bad if we were ever capable of playing on the front foot. But that’s not how we set up under Robins. It’s going to be a long season.
It’s the players like Craine etc which to some indicate maybe a lack of ambitionIt feels no different really. In fact better than some looking back at it. But I don’t really go in for this massive overanalysis of it all & turning into quivering wrecks about it. It will be ok. Have other clubs left us standing in terms of who they’ve brought in? As for players coming in after the season starts, that’s nothing unusual, players are always moving right up until deadline day.
It’s the players like Craine etc which to some indicate maybe a lack of ambition
Like mcfadzean then!Rocky could be class in the long term but looks very raw I could see him making a lot of mistakes seeing red giving away penaltys
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Alternatively we're potentially signing an experienced championship defender as a squad player to provide cover for a couple of positions - depends how you choose to look at it.It’s the players like Craine etc which to some indicate maybe a lack of ambition
I expect what we’ve done every season until this one: us to have scouted and lines up players ahead of time that will improve the squad.
We seem to be taking anyone including players who have barely played for years, players at the end of their careers, players without a club (in one case a player who hasn’t had a club for a year, and in another a player who keeps getting his contract terminated(
Do you seriously think this preseason has the same feel as others squad building wise?
Now apparently we won’t have anyone in before the season starts in a position we have needed strengthening since last year.
The only person mentioning £5m players is you.
Some very valid points but I was always expecting this season to be very different from a recruitment perspective.
I expect Maatsen & a CB (even if it's Cranie) before the season starts, is one of those the position you mean?
Once we reached the Championship, & especially now with the change in work permit rules, it's made every transfer much, much harder to complete.
We're no longer one of the most attractive clubs in our division & with large swathes of Europe effectively closed off you have 24 teams (mostly more attractive & with bigger budgets than us) all competing in the same markets for a lot of the same players.
All this is before we even think of Covid & the lack of income across the board that means the arse has fell out of the market for clubs like us that need to free up budget by offloading players that are surplus to requirements.
A couple of years ago you would easily expect a player like Jamie Allen to command a reasonable fee to a decent League One club, now it's likely if we do shift him it'll be on a free transfer.
I'm fully expecting a really tough season tbh & if you offered it me now, I'd accept 21st & staying in the league. I'm sure that will be met with "Where's the ambition?" etc. but I think, with the current state of play, staying up would be an achievement. I've seen it all too many times with the "Difficult 2nd season" syndrome where a club overachieves one season & comes crashing back down to earth the next. Take Sheffield United last season for example.
We need to stabilise in this league & slowly churn the squad. It might mean being a bit pragmatic with some of our signings in the short term but I trust in MR & the recruitment team to get it right.
Bang on. I can see the frustration with recruitment this year but a look around the division will show we are doing OK. Forest have signed 1 player, a back up goalkeeper and lost some key players from last season (main one being Garner) and their fans think they need a new pair of fullbacks. We will be better prepared than them for the 1st game of the season.
Even if we didn’t sign another player we would be able to field a decent 11 at the moment which is more than can be said for some teams.
Last 3 seasons loans have played a massive part for us and I’m sure they will again, just have to be patient. We’ll be OK, there’s at least 3 teams worse than us in this division IMO.
By the Chelsea lad do you mean Maatsen? And do you think we will get a CB on top of Craine?
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I expect what we’ve done every season until this one: us to have scouted and lines up players ahead of time that will improve the squad.
We seem to be taking anyone including players who have barely played for years, players at the end of their careers, players without a club (in one case a player who hasn’t had a club for a year, and in another a player who keeps getting his contract terminated(
Do you seriously think this preseason has the same feel as others squad building wise?
Now apparently we won’t have anyone in before the season starts in a position we have needed strengthening since last year.
The only person mentioning £5m players is you.
No, a very posh petrol one,but he would still have to operate it.
Would struggle in league 1 mateMoore
Dabo Rose Fadz Craine Maatsen
Sheaf Hamer
O’Hare
Waghorn Gyo
Not sure how I feel about that team tbh
More players with lesser abilities. I like your thinking.....If Crainie came on top of the CB loanee from Chelsea (Clarke-Salter seems logical) it gives us 5 decent choices at the back. Whilst I'm not sure any are quite of the Ostigard standard think it gives us more depth.
Hand grenade manOh dear. We are fucked. I can see a disaster season on the horizon. Cranie wouldn't get in many League 1 teams. Fuck it, get Adebola back too....
Why did he spunk his budget on Sheaf???? Robin's to get sacked or walk before January
Except he’s been playing in the championship for the last 12 or so years.Oh dear. We are fucked. I can see a disaster season on the horizon. Cranie wouldn't get in many League 1 teams. Fuck it, get Adebola back too....
Why did he spunk his budget on Sheaf???? Robin's to get sacked or walk before January
It might be the case that the quality in the championship is a bit weaker again this year, in which case what we have got may well do better.
I agree with what you are saying though, and just because some people are concerned doesn't mean that they are throwing their dummies out the pram because we aren't signing Messi.
This transfer window feels very odd. You would be almost hoping we are saving the best until last as the team at the moment is definitely not stronger than last year. As you say though, the players we are looking at all seem to have patchy appearance numbers, and that is being polite about it.
The goalkeeping situation is something I can't really get my head around, and the defence is extremely weak, looking to be filled out by pretty much anyone who has their afternoon's free.
It's too early to write it off, of course, but I am apprehensive at the moment.
Last season we finished 16th, we had some disappointing moments, we made mistakes, but we learnt and adapted and found an effective way if winning to pull us away from danger. All that with basically the same 11, our strikers were rarely all fit at the same time, Robins rarely used his subs as the bench had no one to make an impact.
We have undoubtedly improved our depth and attacking options so we could suddenly have for example; Jones, Bright and Walker all on the bench to come on.
We are going to plug these defensive gaps. Hyam and Rose coming in will improve us again and an extra signing there would also help.
I think most of us want a CM and I'm sure Robins does too with Kelly injured and not replacing James.
Look at other teams who have either signed absolutely no one or a GK (in the case of Forest). I think we will be ready come 8th August.
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